I don't think its always so clear cut.
Babic may not have been that good a few years ago & just progressed due to the Bayer Laverkusen tarining methods.
I always bring up the one about Mark Summerbell loaned to Cork City 4-5 years ago - looked very poor on months loan but always amazed me to see he still part of the Middlesboro first team squad & getting some games. Course hes now found a home at Roddy Collins Carlisle.
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