Nally manslaughter conviction quashed

**Ringo** · 12/10/2006, 12:11 PM

Nally manslaughter conviction quashed
12/10/2006 - 10:41:28

The Court of Criminal Appeal has quashed the conviction of Co Mayo farmer Padraig Nally, who was jailed for six years for shooting a Traveller dead on his land in 2004.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/2006/10/12/story280666.html

**osarusan** · 12/10/2006, 2:39 PM

Quashed - but a retrial ordered.

A retrial may well find the same verdict.

**ccfcman** · 13/10/2006, 7:57 AM

Am I right in thinking a re-trial could quite possibley backfire at him, ending up in the 'Joy for ages or something?

**Thunderblaster** · 14/12/2006, 7:06 PM

NEWSFLASH: Padraig Nally was found not guilty of manslaughter of John "Frog" Ward at the Central Criminal Court in Dublin this evening.

**Ringo** · 14/12/2006, 8:44 PM

get my gun its open season.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 14/12/2006, 8:58 PM

Originally Posted by Thunderblaster

NEWSFLASH: Padraig Nally was found not guilty of manslaughter of John "Frog" Ward at the Central Criminal Court in Dublin this evening.

A load of bollóx. I agree that everyone has the right to self defence, but what he did went further than too far. I think he is lying about not trying to kill the intruder going by the description that he gave of the beating himself and also I believe there was history between the two men.

**Ringo** · 14/12/2006, 9:08 PM

12 good men/women disagree

**onceahoop** · 14/12/2006, 10:38 PM

Put yourself in his position. A 60 year old man who's in fear of his life. What was Frog Ward peeping in his back door for. I always ring the bell.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 15/12/2006, 8:58 AM

No winners here.

One of the myths I think this case has exploded is the nonsensical notion of the "close knit rural community" we have in this country.

None of that guys neighbours gave a flying fcuk about him.

**anto1208** · 15/12/2006, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

A load of bollóx. I agree that everyone has the right to self defence, but what he did went further than too far. I think he is lying about not trying to kill the intruder going by the description that he gave of the beating himself and also I believe there was history between the two men.

So what do you suggest shoot him once call an ambulance send him to hospital as soon as he is better he is back with a big gang of travellers to kill Nally for shooting him !!

i wonder how long before nally is attacked and hurt if not killed by travellers now , they have a bounty on his head and he has been attacked once allready since getting out .

i hate this phrase open season on travellers that they are using now, its not ,its open season on people breaking into your house are they suggesting that all travellers are robbers ??

**Saint Tom** · 15/12/2006, 7:03 PM

nally was in a pub follwing his acquittal of the manslaughter of a traveller. *****************************

**beautifulrock** · 16/12/2006, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

No winners here.

One of the myths I think this case has exploded is the nonsensical notion of the "close knit rural community" we have in this country.

None of that guys neighbours gave a flying fcuk about him.

Are you sure, whilst he was in jail his neighbours kep his farm going, rallied support, collected for his legal defence. Try not to comment on things you do not have a clue about.

**pete** · 16/12/2006, 12:20 PM

I have mixed opinions on this.

Nally was originally found guilty of man slaughter but granted a new trial as originally jury did not have option to aquit. He was found not guilty in 2nd trial. Thats the end of it unless the state appeals (very unlikely).

I could accept the verdict if Nally was 'out of his mind' or temporarily insane because he feared for his life so much. However basically killing someone when they no longer a threat seems different. Killing someone because he may come back tomorrow would set a nasty precedent in law.

Nally interview on the steps of the court was good though. He seemed genuinely upset & just wanted to get home & end the tragedy all around.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 17/12/2006, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by anto1208

So what do you suggest shoot him once call an ambulance send him to hospital as soon as he is better he is back with a big gang of travellers to kill Nally for shooting him !!

So you don't think he took it too far? Sure he only killed him- it's no big deal.

Concerning your second point you said yourself such a thing could happen after what has happened.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 18/12/2006, 9:58 AM

Originally Posted by beautifulrock

Are you sure, whilst he was in jail his neighbours kep his farm going, rallied support, collected for his legal defence. Try not to comment on things you do not have a clue about.

Where were all these neighbours when the guy was sitting in cat like readiness at his window, scared of his own shadow? He's said as much himself. None of them appear to have so much as phoned the guy to check he was alright up there ...why bother? -sure that's why we've postmen.

His neighbours only got involved after the fact, when it could be argued they'd a more pressing vested interest in his predicament, despite their knowing the state he was in and that he'd been burgled before.

**jebus** · 18/12/2006, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by anto1208

So what do you suggest shoot him once call an ambulance send him to hospital as soon as he is better he is back with a big gang of travellers to kill Nally for shooting him !!

By that logic if I got into a fight with a scumbag downtown I may as well kill him because the scumbag might come after me with some of his mates, sure it's only self protection. What next I get to stab some guy on a bus for looking at me strangely? Nally's a murderer and should have been chucked in jail, all this case will do is possibly open the floodgates of the 'what can you/can't you do' to protect your property, a discussion none of us should go the road of

**Dodge** · 18/12/2006, 9:18 PM

Yeah, killing people is definitely the way to go

**Sheridan** · 18/12/2006, 9:22 PM

I've read (and written) a lot of ill-considered balderdash on here in my time, but I never thought anyone would stoop so low as to actively advocate what amounts to genocide.

**sligoman** · 18/12/2006, 9:28 PM

Delighted for Nally. Totally deserved to get off!

**Thunderblaster** · 19/12/2006, 7:57 PM

I'm delighted for Padraig Nally with what he had to go through living in fear in his own home. Mr. Ward had no reason whatsoever to be near the house. In his acquittal, Nally may become a symbol for the far right movement.