Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

[bluewhitearmy]

I thought there were some saying that Limerick would be back to the Markets Field next season ?

Thats the plan.

[oriel]

So the debts that other clubs may or not have are the reasons why Oriel Park is the way it is ?
I must remember that one the next time someone comes looking for money

Hopefully when Dundalk get all the League & European money they will spend some of it on their stadium.
But hang on a while, Dundalk don't actually own Oriel Park do they ?
Someone else built it for them.
A bit like Cork so

It's nothing like Cork, the Casey family own oriel park land, but the club built all of the structures. The MFA built all 4 stands in TC, that's the difference. The again we pay a nominal rent compared to the significant amount that Cork have to pay. This is fair enough as they have full use to the best stadium in the league.

The long lease of Oriel Park has a 'must be used for football' clause in it and there is nothing stopping DFC building anything on it, just the tricky thing of having to fund it, but I believe there are plans to make improvements in the not to distant future. Nothing specific has been mentioned, but it's clear there is a very long list of things to look at. It will all come down to funding and priorities.

[El-Pietro]

The MFA built all four stands in Turners Cross on the back of Cork City. As I'm sure most people realise Turners Cross would be what it is without the rent we have paid towards it over the years. Nor would they have access to the grant money they have drawn down were we not the anchor tenants.

Its a great situation to be in to be fair, even if the large rent means we are slightly less competitive year to year than we might otherwise be.

[wonder88]

What sort of figure we are talking about for Cork renting Turners Cross, and how does it compare with what Shamrock R pay up in Tallaght?

[Mr A]

I remember seeing that crane on last day of the season when we visited.. does that river separate the two grounds?

Yes, the Finn is between the old and new grounds.

How long is the build expected to take ?

Hard to say- there have already been so many delays down the years. The ground development committee have not given an exact completion date because we're at the mercy of grants, drawdowns etc but we'd certainly hope to see it done within two years.

[Martinho II]

Yes, the Finn is between the old and new grounds.



Hard to say- there have already been so many delays down the years. The ground development committee have not given an exact completion date because we're at the mercy of grants, drawdowns etc but we'd certainly hope to see it done within two years.

wots goin to happen to your old ground once ye move Mr A?

[Mr A]

Given the time taken to get this project up and running I think we should immediately start work on Finn Park 3 on the old site

Actually the site will then be handed to the developer to do with as they please. Finn Park is zoned for development so is relatively valuable compared to the new ground which will be on land zoned recreational.

[redobit]

What sort of figure we are talking about for Cork renting Turners Cross, and how does it compare with what Shamrock R pay up in Tallaght?

Over 3k per game I was told by a Cork fan a couple years back.

[northwestexile]

I listened to the radio interview John Delaney gave on RTE Radio recently and he mentioned that there was discussions with Dublin City Council and St Pat's over developments at Richmond Park? Whats the story there?

[Charlie Darwin]

I listened to the radio interview John Delaney gave on RTE Radio recently and he mentioned that there was discussions with Dublin City Council and St Pat's over developments at Richmond Park? Whats the story there?

Supposedly about extending the Camac terrace into a full stand, which I believe would require the permission of the landowners behind it, which I don't think is the council but might be. There is always the possibility it's complete bull**** that only ever happened in Delaney's head.

[northwestexile]

Isn't there a river close behind that terrace? It would be quite tight for space along that side I would imagine.

[Charlie Darwin]

Yeah, the Camac is just a stream really. You could build a foundation around it without disrupting the flow of the river. I seem to recall one of Kelleher's many hair-brained schemes was to buy the east stand from the old Lansdowne Road and rebuild it on top of the Camac end.

[legendz]

[BonnieShels]

Just had a gander and there's just over an acre of land in a solid freehold block between the back gardens of those houses (between 97 and 153) on Inchicore Road and the centre line of the Camac. It runs the entire length from the western edge of the Richmond Park leasehold to just past the shed on the eastern side.

So channelling the Camac and expansion is entirely possible. But where's the cashmoney to do it.

[Lim till i die]

Just got a chance to look at the tender for the Markets Field.

Key points:

Capacity: 2215

Main Stand: 1315

Temporary Away Stand: 300

Away standing area: 150

Popular side standing: 300

Behind goals standing at home end: 150

Standing areas are "Tar and Chip" finished. (ie no steps)

No toilet facilities for home fans outside the main stand.

One entrance for Home fans.

One entrance for away fans.

No sign of any turnstiles.



These LEDP boys do not deliver bang for the buck.

[adamd164]

That away section is too small if there's any meaningful derby game there next season, or a big cup game.

[SalvadorSanchez]

looking forward to seeing the markets field, seems that LEDP are missing a trick not putting in stepped concrete terraces, still the main stand if done right could look great, it looks crusty now but paint, new seats, lights and new glass on the sides would transform it. whats the square box beside the main stand?

[Lim till i die]

Point taken but it's probably concern number 17 on my list of problems with that ground

[Lim till i die]

looking forward to seeing the markets field, seems that LEDP are missing a trick not putting in stepped concrete terraces, still the main stand if done right could look great, it looks crusty now but paint, new seats, lights and new glass on the sides would transform it. whats the square box beside the main stand?

Used to be a bar

Now it's going to be the media area and a meeting room

[SalvadorSanchez]

adamd164, right on. away spaces is poor planning, 400 spaces wouldn't cost much more to build and would be great for derby games, playoffs, cup games etc. Space for 150 will look like a bus shelter.