New Irish manager

**Kingdom** · 08/02/2007, 12:52 PM

I'm not going to suggest a new manager as I haven't had time to seriously consider any alternatives, but if Aldo wasn't prepared to call it as it last night or any of the others for that matter then why should they be considered?
And something else i've been wondering about. Why was Robson offered a job as consultant? We have an octogenarion with a great knowledge of world football and the Irish set-up in John Giles already!
I think the suggestion that John Sheridan should be offered it may be a tad reactionary, he is doing well alright but this might be too big of a step up at this stage of his career.
I don't see why we can't cast the net a tad bit further and pick a foreign coach with reasonable English

I remember a bit of a discussion around the cyprus match where a few posts were suggesting the cost a quality coach would cost, as in other countries of equal standing (Croatia, HJungary etc) and the salaries their coaches were paid in comparison to the ludicrous wages Gingernuts is on.

**ainsie** · 08/02/2007, 1:01 PM

You must all be Masochistic. You must love been neaten up. I suppose its a way of getting frustration of your chest. But I'll spell this out. ITS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. I hope I'm wrong and would admit it but...do you think delaney will?(admit it) Stan will be the man in March. Maybe even beyond. Hes rebuilding after all. Thats whay Kilbane was in there last night , hes the future. Carr , would have been in there, Robbie Keane was there , the future, Ian Harte, a building block?

Give up lads close the tread.... hes staying!!!!!!

**Wolfie** · 08/02/2007, 1:09 PM

Staunton to go would be a mercy killing at this stage. It just can't go on.

The lead up to the game had a holiday camp vibe to it. What, (or more importantly), what wasn't communicated to that group of players before that game?

Regardless of what level they play at and how well paid they are - the team needed to take to the field with a game plan and clear interpretation of what was expected from them.

The set pieces were a joke. I doubt they were even practiced / planned out. Some decent crosses were placed in the box and noone was there.

Did anyone watch how Germany beat San Marino? Around 8 of the 13 goals came from beating the full back and squaring the ball back to an oncoming player. Hardly tactical genius.

The team also veers from early over confidence to clueless, blind panic - trying to give off the vibe of a cool cat and they end up like a bunch of petrified chimps.

**Rufus** · 08/02/2007, 1:21 PM

If Stauntons's CV had been given to the interview panel with nothing to indicate who he was would it have even been considered?

**Irish_Praha** · 08/02/2007, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rufus

If Stauntons's CV had been given to the interview panel with nothing to indicate who he was would it have even been considered?

Then he would have to exclude the fact that he has 103 caps, which as far I can see is the only reason, and a poor one at that, he would have been selected.

**Ordinary Fan** · 08/02/2007, 2:34 PM

We were promised a world class manager and instead we got Staunton. He is not the only manager in Europe to be appointed without any previous experience but it was gamble and now it has failed.

He won't be sacked because Delaney would have to go with him. We are going to have a sad few years as Stan stumbles about talking sh... but we will most likely beat Wales despite him.

**Over the post** · 08/02/2007, 2:39 PM

Jupp Heynkes.

I hear Gus Hiddink is up in court on tax evasion charges, maybe the judge could sentence him to manage Ireland as a kind of community service

**Dr. Ogba** · 08/02/2007, 2:49 PM

Originally Posted by Over the post

Jupp Heynkes.

I hear Gus Hiddink is up in court on tax evasion charges, maybe the judge could sentence him to manage Ireland as a kind of community service

Nah man the punishment doesn't fit the crime!

"I sentence you to 4 years working for John Delaney and his cronies".....they would want to make sure to confiscate his belt and shoe-laces!

**galwayhoop** · 08/02/2007, 3:20 PM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

I think the suggestion that John Sheridan should be offered it may be a tad reactionary, he is doing well alright but this might be too big of a step up at this stage of his career.

pity delaney didn't think that about stan.

why on earth was he given the job in the first place??

is delaney purposely trying to ruin our football reputation??

i honestly can't see why delaney hired him... is stan his love child??

**IsMiseSean** · 08/02/2007, 9:19 PM

I think its time we go down the foreigner route! A german or dutch manager.
Someone said wim jansen not a bad choice

**backstothewall** · 08/02/2007, 9:47 PM

David O'Deary would be David Disaster. As someone who has followed villa since I was a kid (when they had Staunton, McGrath, Townsend and Houghton) I have seen O'Deary in action, and based on that I would prefer Staunton to stay.

Martin O'Neill is doing 2 or three times the job with basically the same players up until last week, Petrov excluded

If its a former Villa manager people want, John Gregory would be a far more preferable (and cheaper) choice.

Plus, we will likely need someone in place for the summer tour, and David O'Leary probably has his holidays booked by now

**joe_barry80** · 09/02/2007, 7:52 AM

Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

I was ashamed to be Irish in that stadium last night.
1 Awful, awful performance by a team that does NOT care
2 gob shiiite pitch invader
3 minute silence to a dead policeman interrupted by mindless leprechaun-suited morons
4 result

And why are you morons apologising to Ealing Green? The guy hates us.

Can I add to that the f**cking idgits from whatever team up north singing IRA songs and f**k the queen songs. I'm sorry how the f**k can these songs motivate the team?

**gustavo** · 09/02/2007, 8:29 AM

Originally Posted by Irish_Praha

Then he would have to exclude the fact that he has 103 caps, which as far I can see is the only reason, and a poor one at that, he would have been selected.

They were probably thinking , well it worked for Van Basten , Rijjkaard (sp) and Klinsmann.

**Lim till i die** · 09/02/2007, 8:44 AM

Originally Posted by drummerboy

Think O'Leary is a realistic target. Looking at what the much acclaimed Martin O'Neill has done with the same players, his record at Villa is not that bad. While I'm not a huge fan of the man, he was successful during his initial period at Leeds, bringing them to the semi of the champions league.

O'Leary is a SPOOFER of the absolute highest degree. Incapable of turning a bad situation around but rather blames everyone around him. Would also have the sever handicap (For David O'Leary anyway) of not being able to buy in players

**gustavo** · 09/02/2007, 8:46 AM

i disagree that O'Leary was a chequebook manager which I presume was your assertion there. Any manager given the funds that O'Leary had at his disposal at the time would have used them to buy players.

**Lim till i die** · 09/02/2007, 8:49 AM

Originally Posted by gustavo

i disagree that O'Leary was a chequebook manager which I presume was your assertion there. Any manager given the funds that O'Leary had at his disposal at the time would have used them to buy players.

Like Seth Johnson

Not necessarily a chequebook manager. Just a crap one

**gustavo** · 09/02/2007, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Like Seth Johnson

Not necessarily a chequebook manager. Just a crap one

At the time Johnson was a good prospect.

I'm by no means an O'Leary fan but you dont guide a team to the semi finals of the CL if you are crap no matter how much money was spent on the team.

Incidentally , O'Learys record at Aston Villa for this time last season is the same as O'Neills now , Does that mean O'Neill is crap too?

**Lim till i die** · 09/02/2007, 9:01 AM

Originally Posted by gustavo

At the time Johnson was a good prospect.

I'm by no means an O'Leary fan but you dont guide a team to the semi finals of the CL if you are crap no matter how much money was spent on the team.

Incidentally , O'Learys record at Aston Villa for this time last season is the same as O'Neills now , Does that mean O'Neill is crap too?

O'Neill is another Spoofer

Brought a solid Leicster side to mid table in the Premiership

First in a two horse race in Scotland

Well Done.

Ask yourself why O'Leary can't get another job in England???

**joe_barry80** · 09/02/2007, 9:34 AM

Originally Posted by Metrostars

I'd put Klinsmann in there. He was offered the USA and Mexico jobs since the World Cup but has turned them down because he wanted complete control of Youth teams set up and EVERYthing to do with the senior team. I'd give him the keys in a minute.

He got killed in the german press because he was forever in the states where his family lives. The states job would have been perfect for him. Expect him to take over a MLS team maybe New York Redbulls?