Aiden McGeady M Ayr Utd b.1986

[Scram]

Funny when you hear Eircom league supporters slagging of Celtic and the quality of the SPL whilst simultaneously calling for inclusion of Eircom league players in the senior team based on nothing.

Not really sure why a lot of Eircom league fans have such a big chip on their shoulders about Celtic and Irish support of Celtic, which is simply a long tradition and a very lucrative one from both an Irish and Celtic perspective. A lot of the same fans reserve this indignant opposition for Celtic only but are quite happy to support English teams....very, very confusing

[SkStu]

a long tradition and a very lucrative one from both an Irish and Celtic perspective.

can you explain that for me please scram? I can see how it has been lucrative for Celtic its the other part i dont get. I dont support Celtic, i dont hate them but i just dont really care much for them. I dont see how they represent an Irish person better than a local eL team does.

By the way, amongst el fans i would estimate that the divide between those who support Celtic and those who dont/hate them is about 60/40.

Also, i think Aiden will turn out to be a very good player. I want to see what he can do for Ireland on the left. Duff can and has played the right wing very well in the past.

[jmurphyc]

He was fantastic against Denmark in August (albeit it it was a friendly and the Danes were shocking that day). I think the main reason why people have been having a go at him is because of the two games in September. He was probably just having a bad week and shouldn't have been selected in the second game. He was decent again against Cyprus. At the moment he seems to be best for us as an impact sub (kind of like Hunt). I think he'll come good eventually.

[micls]

a very lucrative one from both an Irish perspective.

Can you explain how to me?

[Bottle of Tonic]

I've been following McGeady since he broke into the celtic team and I think he's progressed year on year. He's also not as inconsistent as some suggest. True, he doesn't play a stormer in every game but is regularly (yes regularly) one of Celtic's top performers in any given game. For a guy who's job is to make things happen I think he's fairly impressive at doing just that. People go on about his final ball, but he will make at least one goalscoring opportunity in every game. Of course I have no stats for this but I watch almost every game he plays. I know his final ball and decision making aren't always spot on, but he is working on it and improving accordingly.

Youngirish,
I love some of your posts but these ones on McGeady are way over the top. It almost reads as if you're dying for him to fail - that's the way it comes across. You have absolutely no respect for Scottish football(like many of our countrymen) and I don't know how you can change that, apart from maybe learning more about it.
This year McGeady has played well in CL games against Benfica, Spartak and Milan. Not 1 in 5, or 1 in 10, like you suggest, and desperately want to believe. He also usually plays well against Rangers. He doesn't just do some party trick flick against Gretna or ICT and thats it.
He's also not a 'winger', in the traditional sense

I have faith in the wee man. He comes across as a top bloke and we should support him and not let our negative perceptions of the the SPL hinder that.

[Sligo Hornet]

I've been following McGeady since he broke into the celtic team and I think he's progressed year on year. He's also not as inconsistent as some suggest. True, he doesn't play a stormer in every game but is regularly (yes regularly) one of Celtic's top performers in any given game. For a guy who's job is to make things happen I think he's fairly impressive at doing just that. People go on about his final ball, but he will make at least one goalscoring opportunity in every game. Of course I have no stats for this but I watch almost every game he plays. I know his final ball and decision making aren't always spot on, but he is working on it and improving accordingly.

Youngirish,
I love some of your posts but these ones on McGeady are way over the top. It almost reads as if you're dying for him to fail - that's the way it comes across. You have absolutely no respect for Scottish football(like many of our countrymen) and I don't know how you can change that, apart from maybe learning more about it.
This year McGeady has played well in CL games against Benfica, Spartak and Milan. Not 1 in 5, or 1 in 10, like you suggest, and desperately want to believe. He also usually plays well against Rangers. He doesn't just do some party trick flick against Gretna or ICT and thats it.
He's also not a 'winger', in the traditional sense

I have faith in the wee man. He comes across as a top bloke and we should support him and not let our negative perceptions of the the SPL hinder that.

Well said Bottle......a reasoned argument from someone that ACTUALLY watches him play, rather than assumptions and opinions raised by "some people" that have openly admitted to not attending many games of any description!!

[antrimgreen]

I have really only seen McGeady play for Ireland and to date he has been very very poor. I did enjoy reading that post Bottle and i have heard from many other Celtic fans that his current form is imporving and he is now playing well consistantly. I for one don't want him to fail, i just hope that he continues to improve (or maintain the standard he is currently playing at), and brings this form to his International game.

[RogerMilla]

very interesting read about mcgeadys development here

[Billsthoughts]

You were going so well. Although you might have a chance of making the defence.

defence? you dont keep your ferrari in the garage eirebhoy....

[Billsthoughts]

Well said Bottle......a reasoned argument from someone that ACTUALLY watches him play, rather than assumptions and opinions raised by "some people" that have openly admitted to not attending many games of any description!!

can I go to you and Neils wedding????

[Sligo Hornet]

can I go to you and Neils wedding????

?????????

[youngirish]

Well said Bottle......a reasoned argument from someone that ACTUALLY watches him play, rather than assumptions and opinions raised by "some people" that have openly admitted to not attending many games of any description!!

I take it that's meant for me. I never admitted such a fact I stated I don't go to all the Ireland games so I don't know how you came to that conclusion. I go to enough games and watch plenty on TV. Unless you go to Celtic games every week I don't see how you are any more qualified than anyone else to remark on McGeady.

And before you all delight in your smugness for putting me right remember we all had these same conversations a few months ago about Paddy McCarthy and Darren Potter (and to a lesser extent Alex Bruce) when many on here also jumped all over me for claiming the above were poor players.

As for wanting to see him fail. Totally untrue. I have no love or hate for Celitc. I support nobody except Ireland so there's no hidden agenda here. I call it as I see it. Some young players I think can be good (J O'Brien, Owen Garvan, Shane Long, Stephen Ireland, possibly Stokes) and others I don't rate. Unlike some people on here that claim whenever any young player has one good game that he's the best thing since Pele. Obviously this is reactionist nonsense from people with no clue no matter how many games they go to see (I'd suggest they save their money instead and go watch curling or something).

Sligo Hornet to sum it up in a few words you talk sh*te and I wouldn't listen to your advice or many others on here if my life depended on it. Have a look at my postings in the past on young players and see how many have turned out to be correct. I think I'll be vindicated on this one also. Give it 2 years or so.

[NeilMcD]

I take it that's meant for me/ I never admitted such a fact I stated I don't go to all the Ireland games so I don't know how you came to that conclusion. I go to enough games and watch plenty on TV. Unless you go to Celtic games every week I don't see how you are any more qualified than anyone else to remark on McGeady.

And before you all delight in your smugness for putting me right remember we all had these same conversations a few months ago about Paddy McCarthy and Darren Potter (and to a lesser extent Alex Bruce) when many on here also jumped all over me for claiming the above were poor players.

As for wanting to see him fail. Totally untrue. I have no love or hate for Celitc. I support nobody except Ireland so there's no hidden agenda here. I call ti as I see it. Some young players I think can be good (J O'Brien, Owen Garvan, Shane Long, possibly Stokes) and others I don't rate. Unlike some people on here that claim whenever any young player has one good game that he's the est thing since Pele obviously reactionist nonsense from people with no clue no matter how many games they go to see (I'd suggest they save their money instead and go watch curling or something).

Sligo Hornet to sum it up in a few words you talk sh*te and I wouldn't listen to your advice or many others on here considering the dribble that they've posted in the past about young players that has subsequently been shown to be idiotic if my life depended on it.

I think you will find that nobody jumped all overfor you saying that a few players were poor players. Again its the manner in which you say it. It is total inverse hypbole. You are over the top in your statements. Instead of saying a player is not great you will say he is pants or some other idiotic term like that. It comes across as if you hate the poor players and the vitriol in your comments is apparent, as stated by a poster a few posts above I think it was Bottle of Tonic. That is why I referred to you as the Eamon Dunphy of Foot.ie. Often it is not what you say but how you say it on here. Again, you come back and say to Sligo Hornet, (my bride to be) some personal abuse and have a go at his knowledge of football. I think mostpeople on here can handle disagreements on whether a players is good or bad and to be honest that is the joy of football in many ways, but you come across as ifyour view is somehow objective, and the rest of us are all living in la la land and we are watching a different game to you the righteous one. Maybe I have got this wrong but that is the way it comes across to me. I am not sure if you know Sligo or not but your comments on his knowledge of football are spot on so you must know him some how.

[NeilMcD]

can I go to you and Neils wedding????

Yeah no problem should be a good old bash. I cant wait to see the Watford Gap.

[youngirish]

I think you will find that nobody jumped all overfor you saying that a few players were poor players. Again its the manner in which you say it. It is total inverse hypbole. You are over the top in your statements. Instead of saying a player is not great you will say he is pants or some other idiotic term like that. It comes across as if you hate the poor players and the vitriol in your comments is apparent, as stated by a poster a few posts above I think it was Bottle of Tonic. That is why I referred to you as the Eamon Dunphy of Foot.ie. Often it is not what you say but how you say it on here. Again, you come back and say to Sligo Hornet, (my bride to be) some personal abuse and have a go at his knowledge of football. I think mostpeople on here can handle disagreements on whether a players is good or bad and to be honest that is the joy of football in many ways, but you come across as ifyour view is somehow objective, and the rest of us are all living in la la land and we are watching a different game to you the righteous one. Maybe I have got this wrong but that is the way it comes across to me. I am not sure if you know Sligo or not but your comments on his knowledge of football are spot on so you must know him some how.

Sligo Hornet started the holier than thou personal abuse. He goes to watch games, did you know that? We should worship him as a God.

As for a player being poor or being good, if I don't believe he's going to be good enough to be regularly a consistently good performer at International level then I would consider that player to be poor as I've stated earlier. This is an Ireland forum after all.

In this sense I dread to see the day when our national team line up with Paddy McCarthy, Darren Potter, Alex Bruce and to a lesser extent Aiden McGeady in the starting 11 for a competitive International.

McGeady has been absolutely shocking for Ireland in competitive games. He's made JOS look good ffs and that alone should worry people. I never remember any of the decent senior Irish players been as consistently poor when they were younger. I can see McGeady having the odd good game for Ireland in the future but I can never imagine him becoming a player we can regularly depend on to put in decent performances in important games for us.

[Billsthoughts]

sure there is one in dundrum shopping centre neil....youve seen one youve seen them all...

[NeilMcD]

Sligo Hornet started the holier than thou personal abuse. He goes to watch games, did you know that? We should worship him as a God.

As for a player being poor or being good to me if I don't believe he's going to be good enough to be regularly a consistently good performer at International level then I would consider that player to be poor as I've stated earlier. This is Ireland we're concerned with after all. In this sense I dread to see the day when Ireland line up with Paddy McCarthy, Darren Potter, Alex Bruce and to a lesser extent Aiden McGeady in the starting 11.

I dont think anybody would disagree with you regarding Mc Carthy and Bruce and so far Potter and possibly Mc Geady but again its the tone. Your last post just now is fair and balanced and it gets the point across that you dont rate those four players. I dont think much of them either to be honest but I am sure if you put across all ofyour posts like the one above there would be no problem.

[NeilMcD]

sure there is one in dundrum shopping centre neil....youve seen one youve seen them all...

Never been at the Dundrum Shopping Centre.

[paul_oshea]

I think you will find that nobody jumped all overfor you saying that a few players were poor players. Again its the manner in which you say it. It is total inverse hypbole. You are over the top in your statements. Instead of saying a player is not great you will say he is pants or some other idiotic term like that. It comes across as if you hate the poor players and the vitriol in your comments is apparent, as stated by a poster a few posts above I think it was Bottle of Tonic. That is why I referred to you as the Eamon Dunphy of Foot.ie. Often it is not what you say but how you say it on here. Again, you come back and say to Sligo Hornet, (my bride to be) some personal abuse and have a go at his knowledge of football. I think mostpeople on here can handle disagreements on whether a players is good or bad and to be honest that is the joy of football in many ways, but you come across as ifyour view is somehow objective, and the rest of us are all living in la la land and we are watching a different game to you the righteous one. Maybe I have got this wrong but that is the way it comes across to me. I am not sure if you know Sligo or not but your comments on his knowledge of football are spot on so you must know him some how.

He must be a bit thick if he doesn't know sligo now in fairness

That was a great post Neil, Can I be bestman for this wedding? I particularly liked the "oh righteous one" comment.

Never been at the Dundrum Shopping Centre.

Neil, you have a weird way of coming across "uber-serious" sometimes, as though you are taking the literal sense of what someone is saying rather than realising what they actually mean

[Sligo Hornet]

Well just goes to prove you shouldn't log off.....I've missed some real entertainment!

I was going to defend myself against Youngirish, but it seems my obedient "fag" has carried this out in fine style already!

I feel sorry for you Youngirish, as you come across as a a poor little bullied child at times....I hope things improve for you.......perhaps in the meanwhile you should ask for your handle to be amended to the more appropriate "Immatureirish"..