Aiden McGeady M Ayr Utd b.1986

**Stuttgart88** · 13/03/2014, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

It's also clear that Scotland's lack of competitiveness helped in Aiden's decision...

He clearly says...a lack of competitiveness contributed to his decision to declare

It's not clear at all, not from his quotes above! From that quote I'd say Scotland's lack of competitiveness vindicated his decision rather than influenced it. That's what the Euros reference was about. No regrets...

He didn't even say above that it was Scotland's ambivalance that made up his mind, whereas you say he clearly says it. Maybe he said all this in the past, I don't know.

He said the story is well known. That story, as far as I can remember, is indeed Scotland's ambivalence, I think at Schoolboy level. But that's not the point: I get narked at your occasional sophism. Whether it's intended or not in this instance I don't know but you do tend to muddle clarity and ambiguity quite a bit, and always towards the slant " it's clear he's a mercenary".

I hope you and Paul see that as a fair point, not a baying mob.

**DeLorean** · 13/03/2014, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Aiden McGeady

It will be strange playing against Scotland at Celtic Park with a lot of the stadium probably booing you

Slightly presumptuous that he'll be selected. Hopefully he'll be flying at Everton by then.

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 13/03/2014, 5:13 PM

http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/ai...-30090216.html

"This league is crying out for intelligent wingers like him. He is an out and out winger who can control his space, take people on and find space. He's exciting in one-versus-one situations with a very unpredictable quality," said Martinez. "That's the type of player you need in this league to exploit spaces in the wide areas and in transition periods.

"I actually think we've been fortunate to have him before the end of the season," he said. "It took a little while to get his fitness levels and physicality ready but now he's ready and I think we'll see the best of him over the next eight weeks.

**Stuttgart88** · 13/03/2014, 5:18 PM

Hopefully.

Anyway, you've dodged the issue of McGeady not being clear about what you were clear he was clear about

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 13/03/2014, 5:21 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Hopefully.

Anyway, you've dodged the issue of McGeady not being clear about what you were clear he was clear about

My apologies if I am too abrasive and assertive in my opinion, Stutts. At the end of the day I am just a fan. It is wrong for me to make assumptions on behalf of other people.

**Stuttgart88** · 13/03/2014, 5:39 PM

I actually don't find your style abrasive or overly assertive per se. It's the spurious making clarity from ambiguity, the above being a good example. It's only on occasion and it's no big deal in itself. Paul's the one who's really narking me today! I find your opinions interesting and based on good knowledge but on occasion you draw firm conclusions from flimsy evidence and when this gets pointed out you either persist with the argument or ignore it.

We all wish we had great domestically produced players to choose from and that any non-Irish born players can recite the Proclamation of Independence backwards, but life's not that simple. Some players are obvious p1ss takes, others like McGeady aren't. When you say he clearly said something he clearly didn't say, well, I'll point it out.

If I may speak on behalf of Tets, I don't think he was accusing you of attacking the poster, he was just rattling off one of the obvious forum rules. One of those unwritten rules, in my opinion, is respecting a fair line of argument even if you don't agree with it. I think at times you have used a disingenuous line of argument or failed to respect fair criticism of your argument. Paul thinks I should get a life for letting that irk me, but so be it.

Keep on posting, don't be afraid to post unpopular opinions and ignore Geysir's more pointed remarks, but keep your supporting arguments "honest" (for want of a better word).

Anyway, I apologise for letting this topic dominate my posts in recent days. This is about the last place left on the planet to have a proper yap about Irish football, let's keep it alive with good debate.

**Charlie Darwin** · 13/03/2014, 5:45 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

This is about the last place left on the planet to have a proper yap about Irish football, let's keep it alive with good debate.

I've heard good things about YBIG. Apparently the lads at away matches are mad into it.

**Stuttgart88** · 13/03/2014, 5:51 PM

They must know their stuff and always be right.

**paul_oshea** · 13/03/2014, 6:00 PM

No just know that mostly on here ye are wrong :P

**SwanVsDalton** · 13/03/2014, 6:58 PM

Away matches are for schmucks. Sure how are you supposed to know what happened if you can't hear the RTE panel tell you?

**Stuttgart88** · 13/03/2014, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Away matches are for schmucks. Sure how are you supposed to know what happened if you can't hear the RTE panel tell you?

The next post on this topic is exclusively reserved for Owls Fan....

**BonnieShels** · 14/03/2014, 2:22 AM

Now that I'm somewhat settled in this snowy wasteland; wasn't Aiden's mind made up loooooong ago...

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**geysir** · 14/03/2014, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Now that I'm somewhat settled in this snowy wasteland; wasn't Aiden's mind made up loooooong ago...

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Why let first hand evidence obscure a revision of McGeady's thoughts on the matter?
Surely that cannot beat going into hidden areas of McGeady's mind and be guided by what we imagine him to be thinking at any given moment in time, re his irish nationality?

Commiserations Bonnie on Ottawa, either you're in search of true love or missed the transportation boat to Van Diemen's Land.

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 14/03/2014, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by geysir

Why let first hand evidence obscure a revision of McGeady's thoughts on the matter?
Surely that cannot beat going into hidden areas of McGeady's mind and be guided by what we imagine him to be thinking at any given moment in time, re his irish nationality?

Commiserations Bonnie on Ottawa, either you're in search of true love or missed the transportation boat to Van Diemen's Land.

Did I ever make assumptions about McGeady's cultural identity? I merely said that Ireland's speed in capping him at underage level and Scotland's reticence in including him in underage age groups factored in his decision.

But you keep making things up as you go along and going for the narky soundbites anyways, geysir.

Calling me fraudulent and throwing around accusatory nonsense again..

**SkStu** · 14/03/2014, 12:52 PM

You will grow to love Geysir. He will grow to tolerate you.

**Charlie Darwin** · 22/04/2014, 4:13 AM

Mirallas is out for the rest of the season with a torn muscle. McEddie's chance to establish himself in the team, although Deolofeu is probably still ahead of him.

**BonnieShels** · 22/04/2014, 9:12 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Mirallas is out for the rest of the season with a torn muscle. McEddie's chance to establish himself in the team, although Deolofeu is probably still ahead of him.

You mean Макгиди surely?

**paul_oshea** · 22/04/2014, 9:29 AM

Cd he is building his fitness would ye stop.

As you and geysir said he will more than hold his own and do well under martinez.

Patience, let him build up his fitness.