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    Quote Originally Posted by Calcio Jack View Post
    Not a surprise or any need for a complicated explanation , just the usual small minded peasant attitude and begrudery that has always existed towards Rovers from the Giles era and beyond.... comforting to know as we move into 2020 that we still can count on their consistent attempts to deflect from their own ineptitude and failure..... pity they don’t try to better themselves rather than trying to drag down their betters ..... bah humbug to the lot of them
    Dont forget to hang the Gone Fishing sign up on the front door CJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    I'd question the unanimity considering Galway and drogs voted in favour at the nlec meeting.
    Looks like a majority decision to me that was presented as a united front. Fair enough that's the way it go's in these things.
    But if the lowest elements of the first division get to dictate policy we are looking at a levelling down.
    One man one vote and all that surely? Would be great if league position dictated weighting of a vote, i'd be all for that! Even better if they aggregated weightng over say a 5 or 10 year period...

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    No problem with one man one vote. On that basis all should be fine, only so many small minds.

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    The statement released was unanimous at least. I'm presuming though that 1st Division clubs had a vote and then majority becomes policy for all? It could become messy very quickly if there wasnt a united front after a vote but at the same time I do think that the result of a vote should be made known if not unanimous. In a very small league like with 9 teams it woulnt be too hard to have a voting block that could make life very difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I suppose it's more technically accurate to say that LSL clubs don't aspire to any higher standard, whereas First Division clubs do.

    LSL clubs can step up to the First Division, but don't want to.
    I take your point, but there is no automatic route of progression from the LSL to the LOI. Teams from there can only step up if there is an opening and they get a license, even if they wanted to go up (which they clearly don't). Whereas - in the absence of relegation from it, the First Division is entirely about progression to the next level. Every year.

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    True - though there's been expressions of interest sought a number of years and nothing doing.

    I agree with what you're saying of course; this is just semantics really. Don't blame any club for not wanting to jump up into the First Division either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    According to the journos pat o Sullivan was vocal at the fai AGM.
    The same PO'S who was one of the very few who voiced public support while Delaney was staggering but still upright ?
    He's a gas man.

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    Also vocal giving out to players from the stands for lack of effort on weeks they weren't paid. Not sure why he bothered going to the AGM, it will be nothing to do with him soon enough.
    Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).

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    Looks like it's going ahead anyway, with a Rovers B team making up the numbers in the first division.

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    The idea that Rovers B would get in when the division 1 clubs are unanimously against it is absolutely abhorrent to be perfectly honest.
    #NeverStopNotGivingUp

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    Quote Originally Posted by placid casual View Post
    Looks like it's going ahead anyway, with a Rovers B team making up the numbers in the first division.
    According to Jamie Moore on offtheball over the weekend, its going ahead with 9 teams

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    The League of Ireland is beocming the living embodiment of Groucho Marx's famous quote.

    We only want those who don't want in to join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    The idea that Rovers B would get in when the division 1 clubs are unanimously against it is absolutely abhorrent to be perfectly honest.
    How unanimous really though? Yup I get that there is likely an agreement that a majority vote becomes a united stance but if it was 5-4 then I can see how the decision could be railroaded through irrespective of the 'united' policy. There is the possibility of some clubs being more equal than others as unfair as that would be, and very much of 'Old FAI', it could be a reality!? i've just had one of those awful flashbacks to being an ignored 1st Division club so I agree, based on Dundalk's experience alone, it's an awful way to administer a division irrespective of whether I myself think 'B' teams should/could feature in lower tiers.

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    If there was truely unanimous opposition to it then surely the clubs hold all the power, If the FAI were going to ignore the clubs and put Rovers B in anyway then would the 1st division clubs not then make it clear that they will all refuse to fulfil fixtures against Rovers ?

    Which would make the thing such a massive sh1tshow that there would be no other option than to scrap it.

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    From my understanding of it even if the first division clubs are all opposed its going to be carried as theres I think a NLEC which consists of seven loi clubs-two of them in the first so the first division will be outnumbered altogether. There was a very good piece by Aidan Fitzmaurice today regarding this!
    Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    From my understanding of it even if the first division clubs are all opposed its going to be carried as theres I think a NLEC which consists of seven loi clubs-two of them in the first so the first division will be outnumbered altogether. There was a very good piece by Aidan Fitzmaurice today regarding this!
    Online anywhere?

    *nevermind link here https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-38839860.html
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    Personally I didn't care too much last time they were in it and don't really care now. Obviously it's far from the ideal solution but as everyone has said already there is no queue of teams looking to join.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    1st division clubs considering legal action or possibly of all clubs agreeing not to play fixtures against rovers B

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainee View Post
    1st division clubs considering legal action or possibly of all clubs agreeing not to play fixtures against rovers B
    Well its not preseason without some LoI drama! and we thought we'd be waiting for licencing day to kick some life in to a new season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainee View Post
    1st division clubs considering legal action or possibly of all clubs agreeing not to play fixtures against rovers B
    If Rovers are not made have 2 Seperate Squads, where players can only move during transfer windows, Im hearing Dundalk will be taking it further aswell, as it would clearly be an unfair advantage

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