QuoteIt appears I've given more credit than was due. Thankfully it seems the recipient can either accept his ignorance or claim ignorance...both work.
Clowns like Stuttgart 88 got drink from Delaney on Irish international games and that made him the man and wouldn't hear a word against him.
Irish football is clearly in a great place going into 2020. I await the press release in the new year from all these wise ones like Stuttgart88 to announce they have taken a place on the board of the FAI and will start the process of bringing Irish football into the modern century
It appears I've given more credit than was due. Thankfully it seems the recipient can either accept his ignorance or claim ignorance...both work.
You know there is a league of Ireland section on the board, where league of Ireland fans discuss league of Ireland issues.Originally Posted by wexfordned
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General consensus here correct and well said but can you back up Stuttgart 88 defending Delaney or saying he was doing a good job? A quote or two would be nice to prove what you are saying because I do remember him saying he was very cunning and astute or words to that effect to still be in power but I don't particularly remember him defending him.
And don't quote ybig. Those lads loved Delaney until their noses were disjointed by the Scotland thing. It had absolutely nothing to do with how he ran the FAI. They thought they should have been put on a pedestal with some special VIP treatment. I go to the games unlike those on here and I know all those ybig lads that go to the games.
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Another deeply disingenuous post really.
I never took a drink from Delaney in my life.
"I don't particularly remember (Stuttgart88) defending him". Damned with faint praise. You know full well I didn't defend him and you also know full well I was highly critical of him and unlike anyone here or on YBIG I actually backed this up by writing to the competent authorities in government, as far back as 2014. I also practically stalked Big John O'Mahoney on twitter asking him to stop ignoring the obvious failings if the FAI. So yeah you'd be right for not particularly remembering me defending him.
"I go to the games unlike those on here". Who in particular? Tedious beyond belief.
You're right about YBIG and the Scotland tickets.
To save anyone the trouble of digging up my thoughts on Delaney and the FAI over the last 15 years to the best of my knowledge I have consistently criticised the FAI's workings. That said I didn't just condemn everything the FAI did. I generally think Dokter is doing a decent job. I think the Emerging Talent Programme is a necessary but insufficient improvement. I think the transfer of power to the LOI clubs and away from the schoolboy clubs is a good thing.
I don't think I was ever convinced by the Aviva arrangement and I wished we had something like eircom Park, a smaller purpose-built home to call our own. I partially defend the Vantage Club fiasco because the world's biggest sports agency IMG devised the strategy. When Charlie D and people like Dan McD in the Indo revealed details of the prices I changed my mind. The people I know in the FAI ticket office are brilliant.
The closest I can remember to defending Delaney was over his drinking in Sopot. I thought the reaction was a bit OTT. He was already an embarrassment, being a drunk embarrassment didn't change much. But I was very critical of him being filmed singing rebel songs in a pub in Bath Avenue, not least because we were due to play NI and Scotland soon and anything even remotely associated with sectarian politics was tone deaf to say the least. I thought Delaney's reaction to his dolly bird being abused on social media was Stalinist, as was the statement from his FAI cronies at the time.
So there you go.
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FAI owe Garda 360k: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020...ng-operations/
Pointedly stated that GAA and IRFU always pay up.
As Stutts probably did on the football pitch, he has deftly kicked innuendo into row Z.
A large portion of FAI shennanigans were concealed under the cloak of non-disclosure, also actual accountancy deceptions such as the recording of €6.5m as income instead of a loan to be repaid, difficult to detect unless one had accces to and could decipher the terms of contract.
To top all that, the bluffers repeatedly believed their own bluff ,that under the lurking shadow of the grim reaper, the delusional FAI gave the temporary new manager a 2 year contract - €1.2m p/a, with 8 competitives games upcoming in the first year, probably 2 in the 2nd year. That's a stupenduos annual salary for an occasional manager. Compare that with full time epl managers annual salary in 2018, Eddie Howe €590k, Chris Hughton €620k, Sean Dyche €700k.
'tis no wonder that even the overlords (Fine Gael) of the new children's hospital were gobsmaked by the extent of the financial mismangement and improper accounting practices of the FAI.
Claiming non disclosure is a mickey mouse defence. While LOI clubs were consistently late receiving their prize money Delaney was buying beer for Irish fans.
Even now it took LOI fans on Twitter to shame Shane Ross into meeting with LOI players when he so casually claimed LOI would go if LOI went.
Irish football owes a debt to LOI clubs and their fans. How many players in the current squad have come from LOI rather then claiming allegiance through some forgotten granny or grandad.
Alas LOI will be forgotten again by the average gombeen Irish fan come the summer when the Euros come to Dublin.
The only way real change will come is if Ireland don't qualify for the Euros. If they somehow qualify it will be all aboard the bandwagon and all the mismanagement will be ignored.
Only if Ireland fail to qualify and the average Irish fan is denied his/her **** up watching the international team might there be a demand for change
Who's claiming a defence? a defence to what? Your post is clueless innacurate bull.
Comparison with international managers is interesting too, and McCarthy's €1.2 million puts him above 19 of the managers at 2018 world cup.
Managers of Eurpoean teams such as Belgium, Switzerland, Iceland, Croatia, Sweden, Serbia and Poland were all earning less.
Ridiculous money really in comparison to what our idea of football 'success' is.
I guess it went up dramatically (with assistance from DOB) to get Trap in and has stayed comparatively high ever since.
I expect it will be seriously slashed if and when Kenny takes over.
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All very Celtic Tiger thinking, in the reckless spending and waste of money.
Would Kenny's contract terms not already have been set? Of course maybe the money isn't there to pay him anymore.
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
Another question then is if Kenny is on a (reduced) senior contract while manager of the 21s...
That's right. Nobody thinks any change is needed as of today.
Who is on the Council currently and is there anybody that can be trusted to get on with the reforms needed needed if elected president?
I think now is a good time to rearrange the way the LoI and International teams get their support. Make it a condition that no home supporters get entry to the Aviva for Irish games unless they have attended a league of Ireland match in the last 4 months.
The FAI needs to increase revenue, not decrease it.
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
Are you on coke? Cheers though needed a laugh today
It probably needs to decrease its expenditure more to be honest - look at issues like the national team manager's salary and the seemingly excessive number of coaches being employed around the country.
But yeah, if nothing else at all, if you start forcing people to go to LoI games, or using a stick to "encourage" them to go, that'll only lead to a backlash sentiment tbh.
Incredible!! The replies to my suggestion just display the small mindedness that is the bane of this country. Without the LoI there is no National team. Honour the locals first or you have no business being at an Irish International match.
How is this any different to people being given first pick of tickets at Euros or World Cups because they had proof of going to games in the Aviva? Exact same principle.
I liken the FAI to the Civil Service in this country. They are meant to act on your behalf and be glad they have jobs not act as if they own the money and we are the dirt beneath their feet.
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