Opening weekends fixtures

**legendz** · 18/02/2019, 5:38 PM

Looking forward to seeing Limerick on Friday night. Hopefully they can challenge for the top 4.

**Nesta99** · 18/02/2019, 8:36 PM

Originally Posted by rebs23

Do you honestly believe that City fans simply walked into a pub full of casually dressed Pats fans and their English buddies from Sheffield Wednesday and simply started throwing bottles at kids and old fellas, seriously?
7-10 City fans decide to take on a whole pub outnumbered by about 5 to 1? For decades now City fans have been getting hassle at games in Dublin involving certain clubs with the exception of Rovers in recent times who generally leave us alone. When is the last time there was serious trouble involving away fans getting attacked in Cork? It is ingrained in City fans now when travelling to Dublin to be aware of potential trouble. And yes we do have fans who will defend themselves when attacked.
Not much commentary about the City team bus getting attacked and windows smashed afterwards.

You can add Dundalk and Drogheda to that list albeit i doubt they have been over decades. It is always entirely unacceptable, as is not taking some ownership in responsibility also when need be. The tone and use of derogatory language on the Cork forum does have the effect of whipping up like thinking small minds that take things beyond some verbal BS. You should consider why you feel a persecution complex 'over decades' at all bar 1 club in Dublin!! Its not as if Cork have a history of being regular challangers for league titles that can cause a build up of the nastier side of rivalries. Ive never had any poor experience in or around LoI grounds bar at the bridge crossing the road at Tallaght on one occasion. Other than that single event I have mingled and drank with rival supporters in McDowells, The Maldron, Mother Hughes's, Linfield Supporters Club among many more Island wide. I have seen very very little aggro over the years relative to the battle royales that get reported online. That said when Cork fans had nasty experiences in Oriel it was to a man condemned by Dundalk fans, the culprits caught and banned. This debate on who started what is BS too as anyone who engages in scumbaggery deserve to be identified and banned. There is no defense and Cork fans would be better off acknowledging that than trying to take the heat off.

**CityRebel** · 19/02/2019, 8:22 AM

Originally Posted by Jack B

* Sheffield United

There's also been more commentary on the pub incident(s) than the bus because Pats fans haven't bizarrely argued against any criticism of a small group of supporters' actions to anywhere near the frankly bizarre extent that many Cork fans have.

Originally Posted by Nesta99

How ironic that it is the virtuous Cork City fans, especially CorkRebel, have had to appear on here in a poor attenpt to defend the indefensible or point fingers elsewhere. They claimed Cork fans are not capble of such behaviour and scoffed when it was said that all clubs have fans that can embaress our clubs, but not Cork - sure their players wont even tackle.

Originally Posted by Nesta99

You can add Dundalk and Drogheda to that list albeit i doubt they have been over decades. It is always entirely unacceptable, as is not taking some ownership in responsibility also when need be. The tone and use of derogatory language on the Cork forum does have the effect of whipping up like thinking small minds that take things beyond some verbal BS. You should consider why you feel a persecution complex 'over decades' at all bar 1 club in Dublin!! Its not as if Cork have a history of being regular challangers for league titles that can cause a build up of the nastier side of rivalries. Ive never had any poor experience in or around LoI grounds bar at the bridge crossing the road at Tallaght on one occasion. Other than that single event I have mingled and drank with rival supporters in McDowells, The Maldron, Mother Hughes's, Linfield Supporters Club among many more Island wide. I have seen very very little aggro over the years relative to the battle royales that get reported online. That said when Cork fans had nasty experiences in Oriel it was to a man condemned by Dundalk fans, the culprits caught and banned. This debate on who started what is BS too as anyone who engages in scumbaggery deserve to be identified and banned. There is no defense and Cork fans would be better off acknowledging that than trying to take the heat off.

I've yet to see a single City fan that has condoned the incidents in Inchicore or jumped to the defence of those involved, every Cork City fan on here has condemned what happened, be it what happened in a pub or our team bus getting smashed up. Keep up the "City fans are the devil!!!!!!!1111111111" narrative lads.

**marinobohs** · 19/02/2019, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by CityRebel

I've yet to see a single City fan that has condoned the incidents in Inchicore or jumped to the defence of those involved, every Cork City fan on here has condemned what happened, be it what happened in a pub or our team bus getting smashed up. Keep up the "City fans are the devil!!!!!!!1111111111" narrative lads.

to be fair Nesta99 quoted the ridiculous justification posted by rebs23 (which you obviously 'missed'). many clubs have a small element of clowns that occasionally get out of hand and this was Cork Citys moment of embarrassment. Bohs, shams, Derry and Dundalk have all been there but that doesn't make what happened at McDowells right, nothing does. lets just all accept that and move on.

**Nesta99** · 19/02/2019, 9:42 AM

Originally Posted by CityRebel

I've yet to see a single City fan that has condoned the incidents in Inchicore or jumped to the defence of those involved, every Cork City fan on here has condemned what happened, be it what happened in a pub or our team bus getting smashed up. Keep up the "City fans are the devil!!!!!!!1111111111" narrative lads.

You dont frequent the Cork City forum then! Either that its a public condemnation on a general LoI forum but then nothing of the sort on on insular Cork forum? An as marinobohs has mentioned if you have yet to see an attempt at condoning what happened read rebs23's post. He really takes the Cork persecution complex to a new level!!

**Crosshead** · 19/02/2019, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Nesta99

You dont frequent the Cork City forum then! Either that its a public condemnation on a general LoI forum but then nothing of the sort on on insular Cork forum? An as marinobohs has mentioned if you have yet to see an attempt at condoning what happened read rebs23's post. He really takes the Cork persecution complex to a new level!!

There's been plenty of unequivocal condemnation of violence on the City forum. And I say that as a City fan who frequents the forum. So to say there's been "nothing of the sort" on the City forum is not true, and a gambit from someone who (rightly) believes that most supporters of other clubs wouldn't be bothered signing up for a different club's forum and will take such tripe at face value.

**Jack B** · 19/02/2019, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by CityRebel

I've yet to see a single City fan that has condoned the incidents in Inchicore or jumped to the defence of those involved, every Cork City fan on here has condemned what happened, be it what happened in a pub or our team bus getting smashed up. Keep up the "City fans are the devil!!!!!!!1111111111" narrative lads.

That isn't the case though is it. And you know that. Nobody has said that about Cork fans on the whole, and the only really a discussion has been had at all beyond condemning what happened is that *some* Cork fans have been really defensive about it (not to be confused with them defending what happened) for some reason. You're desperately trying to clutch onto a "narrative" that doesn't exist and it's pretty weird tbh.

**El-Pietro** · 19/02/2019, 12:32 PM

I think theres equally a narrative that all Pats fans were completely innocent. It seems to me that there were two groups of fans looking for a scrap with each other and both trying to pretend they are completely innocent when in fact they are both guilty and a stain on our game.

**marinobohs** · 19/02/2019, 1:18 PM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

I think theres equally a narrative that all Pats fans were completely innocent. It seems to me that there were two groups of fans looking for a scrap with each other and both trying to pretend they are completely innocent when in fact they are both guilty and a stain on our game.

I wasn't there but from all reports, it seems Cork fans were the cause of the trouble in the pub and Pats fans at fault for incident with Cork bus, both incidents were wrong. If it were suggested that Cork 'deserved' to have their bus attacked or somehow instigated it, Cork fans would, rightly, be up in arms. Similarly, there is no basis to believe Pats fans did anything to deserve/instigate the incident in McDowells (or at least nobody has identified anything)

Defending it on the basis of some previous incident in Dublin is garbage, many people have had a bad experience in Cork, it doesn't entitle them to go around throwing bottles and/or glasses.

**dundalkfc10** · 19/02/2019, 1:20 PM

When we played Linfield, no Dundalk fans were allowed attend the game unless they got official buses from Oriel and we got a police escort (about 20 big police vans from Sprucefield into Windsor. Was the same for Glentoran aswell, Cliftonville we were in the bar alright

So Nesta don’t make stuff up that you were drinking in Linfield Supporters Club before the game

**marinobohs** · 19/02/2019, 1:24 PM

Originally Posted by dundalkfc10

When we played Linfield, no Dundalk fans were allowed attend the game unless they got official buses from Oriel and we got a police escort (about 20 big police vans from Sprucefield into Windsor. Was the same for Glentoran aswell, Cliftonville we were in the bar alright

So Nesta don’t make stuff up that you were drinking in Linfield Supporters Club before the game

Similar for Bohs when we played up in Linfield and Glentoran. Police escort in and out to the city limits. some fans did travel by car/train so they may have had a pint locally but it would want to be a very quiet pint.

**joey B** · 19/02/2019, 1:27 PM

One thing I forgot about Dalymount on Friday was that we had to get our hot food from behind a caged fence because the FAI said so,but after the match we walked out mingling with those we couldn't buy chips with!!!!!

**El-Pietro** · 19/02/2019, 1:37 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

I wasn't there but from all reports, it seems Cork fans were the cause of the trouble in the pub and Pats fans at fault for incident with Cork bus, both incidents were wrong. If it were suggested that Cork 'deserved' to have their bus attacked or somehow instigated it, Cork fans would, rightly, be up in arms. Similarly, there is no basis to believe Pats fans did anything to deserve/instigate the incident in McDowells (or at least nobody has identified anything)

Defending it on the basis of some previous incident in Dublin is garbage, many people have had a bad experience in Cork, it doesn't entitle them to go around throwing bottles and/or glasses.

There was a Pats fan on twitter delighted with "slapping" Cork City fans. I get the impression the scrap in McDowells wasn't quite as one sided as this thread suggests. I wasn't there though, I don't know who started it, but it sounds like both sides were delighted to bump into each other. By the way I'm not remotely defending any City fans involved in this. I wish they would all **** off and just let us watch football.

**sbgawa** · 19/02/2019, 1:51 PM

We all have our own small collections of muppets ........., not worth talking about them.

**D24Saint** · 19/02/2019, 2:03 PM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

There was a Pats fan on twitter delighted with "slapping" Cork City fans. I get the impression the scrap in McDowells wasn't quite as one sided as this thread suggests. I wasn't there though, I don't know who started it, but it sounds like both sides were delighted to bump into each other. By the way I'm not remotely defending any City fans involved in this. I wish they would all **** off and just let us watch football.

Your not defending but your are justifying what happened, if cork heads caused trouble in the pub they are scum if Pats heads broke windows on the cork team bus they are scum best leaving it there. The joe soap fan cant control these animals that’s what the cops are paid for.

**bohsmug** · 19/02/2019, 2:06 PM

Originally Posted by joey B

One thing I forgot about Dalymount on Friday was that we had to get our hot food from behind a caged fence because the FAI said so,but after the match we walked out mingling with those we couldn't buy chips with!!!!!

Strange considering the only reason you weren't in the Jodi is because tickets were selling well enough that they needed to open the other stand. You'll be in the Jodi later in the year when there's less of a crowd. I wonder will they cage you in block A or is the cage only for chip-hungry fans

**El-Pietro** · 19/02/2019, 2:17 PM

Originally Posted by D24Saint

Your not defending but your are justifying what happened, if cork heads caused trouble in the pub they are scum if Pats heads broke windows on the cork team bus they are scum best leaving it there. The joe soap fan cant control these animals that’s what the cops are paid for.

I'm not justifying it at all. I'm saying that the Pats fans are also scum for fighting in the pub. I don't believe they weren't expecting something. I think it was probably organised or semi organised. I have no idea who threw the first punch but I don't think it was random Pats fans who were involved.

**Couch Potato** · 19/02/2019, 3:05 PM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

I'm not justifying it at all. I'm saying that the Pats fans are also scum for fighting in the pub. I don't believe they weren't expecting something. I think it was probably organised or semi organised. I have no idea who threw the first punch but I don't think it was random Pats fans who were involved.

So you think that two groups arranged to meet for a fight inside a packed pub?

I wasn't there but I've heard a very similar story from different people who were, the similarities and the fact that the people I spoke to wouldn't know each other, so wouldn't have had concocted the story between them.

From what I can gather, a group of cork fans 6-10 walked into McDowells started giving it the big one verbals etc this was met with verbals back from a group of fans at the back of the pub. Cork fans started throwing glasses/bottles, Pats fans and Cork Fans then both sets of fans tried to get at each other but as the pub was packed this obviously caused a bit of a crush/stampede.

Thankfully there were plenty of Gaurds around and it didn't last too long.
The Cork fans were also causing trouble in the Black Lion.

Smashing bus windows is an idiotic scumbaggy thing to do IMO what the cork lads did was far worse.
I believe the Gardaí are investigating both incidents so hopefully those involved get bans.

I must add I was very surprised at this as I have never seen any hassle with Cork fans before or trouble like that in mcDowells there would always be away fans drinking in there without an ounce of hassle including plenty of our Dublin rivals supporters.

**dublinred** · 19/02/2019, 3:08 PM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

I'm not justifying it at all. I'm saying that the Pats fans are also scum for fighting in the pub. I don't believe they weren't expecting something. I think it was probably organised or semi organised. I have no idea who threw the first punch but I don't think it was random Pats fans who were involved.

Why don't Cork request the CCTV from the pub and identify those involved?