Stephen Kenny

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

I think Kenny could be a good technical director or someone in charge of analysis or something. He seems to know the game well and understand the modern game but just doesn’t have the personality to rouse the team or get his message across.

The exact opposite of Martin O’Neill perhaps.

The truth is though, we were at our best when Anthony Barry was involved.

So…yeah let’s just give the gig to Anthony Barry

Losing Anthony Barry was the end of Kenny's reign really. When a manager is depending on a coach to run the team for him, he should be removed instantly. I remember many here and elsewhere laughing when it was suggested that Ireland's slight upturn in fortunes was down to Barry. I guess they're not laughing any more.

Let's offer Barry the job, I agree.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

the poster said we'd lose 7-0 we've not been humiliated like that at all, yet. sorry but your anti kenny bias is playing up if you think portugal should have beaten us by 4 goals. they were poor in the two ties. serbia deserved to win in dublin, not by 5 goals though. people are going far out of there way to over exaggerate things now

Portugal had 29 shots and 72% possession. It could easily have been 5 or 6-1.

You're the one trying to talk down games won under McCarthy and comparing them with the shambles Kenny has offered. Your Kenny bias doesn't stack up to actual facts. McCarthy P 10, won 5, drew 4, lost 1. Kenny P 30, won 8, drew 11, lost 11. You measure a job a manager has done based on where they took over to where they left them. No amount of spoofing can cover the fact that Kenny has brought us backwards by a long way.

[Jd2793]

Portugal had 29 shots and 72% possession. It could easily have been 5 or 6-1.

You're the one trying to talk down games won under McCarthy and comparing them with the shambles Kenny has offered. Your Kenny bias doesn't stack up to actual facts. McCarthy P 10, won 5, drew 4, lost 1. Kenny P 30, won 8, drew 11, lost 11. You measure a job a manager has done based on where they took over to where they left them. No amount of spoofing can cover the fact that Kenny has brought us backwards by a long way.

cmere to me. go back and watch the game. portugal had 20 shots from outside the box. 9 inside one of which was a pen. we limited them to low % chances for the majority of that game, bar the silva chance. they were taking speculative shots for the most of that 2nd half, would you talk down the 1-1 away in denmark then? should they have won 4-1 because they had 18 shots to our 4?. no matter what way you want to twist things, they did not deserve to win 5/6-1. kenny drew 1-1 with serbia mick drew 1-1 with denmark twice. we were shocking twice against georgia + gibraltor.

[tetsujin1979]

You left out that only seven of those 29 shots were on target

[pineapple stu]

I suppose you look that Portugal scored twice, hit the post, missed a penalty, missed an absolute sitter in the second half - that's your 5-1 handy enough.

But part of the reason they scored twice is because they didn't score those early chances and had to keep pressing. Had they scored the penalty (and of course they didn't) they might have been 3-0 up after an hour and taken the foot off the pedal like England did against us.

But it remains the case that England are the only team to beat Kenny's Ireland by more than a goal. Let's see if that remains the case after we play Holland or France though...

[Jd2793]

I suppose you look that Portugal scored twice, hit the post, missed a penalty, missed an absolute sitter in the second half - that's your 5-1 handy enough.

But part of the reason they scored twice is because they didn't score those early chances and had to keep pressing. Had they scored the penalty (and of course they didn't) they might have been 3-0 up after an hour and taken the foot off the pedal like England did against us.

But it remains the case that England are the only team to beat Kenny's Ireland by more than a goal. Let's see if that remains the case after we play Holland or France though...

portugals xG was 1.95 minus the pen. says a lot about the quality of those other 28 shots. but yeah lets see what happens , confidence on the floor after yday.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

cmere to me. go back and watch the game. portugal had 20 shots from outside the box. 9 inside one of which was a pen. we limited them to low % chances for the majority of that game, bar the silva chance. they were taking speculative shots for the most of that 2nd half, would you talk down the 1-1 away in denmark then? should they have won 4-1 because they had 18 shots to our 4?. no matter what way you want to twist things, they did not deserve to win 5/6-1. kenny drew 1-1 with serbia mick drew 1-1 with denmark twice. we were shocking twice against georgia + gibraltor.

That's Kenny fan spoof coming out in full force. 29 shots to 6. 72% possession, we were battered. I've seen 5 or 6-1 scorelines with closer matches games than that. If you want to talk about Denmark, have a look at the home game against them. That's one we should have won and qualified for the Euros. How close has Kenny got us to qualification? Well I suppose he's got us close to qualifying for Nations league group D!

Mick's reign was quite poor in places but compared with Kenny's time in charge, Mick looks like Pep!

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

You left out that only seven of those 29 shots were on target

That doesn't change the fact that we were battered.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

I suppose you look that Portugal scored twice, hit the post, missed a penalty, missed an absolute sitter in the second half - that's your 5-1 handy enough.

But part of the reason they scored twice is because they didn't score those early chances and had to keep pressing. Had they scored the penalty (and of course they didn't) they might have been 3-0 up after an hour and taken the foot off the pedal like England did against us.

But it remains the case that England are the only team to beat Kenny's Ireland by more than a goal. Let's see if that remains the case after we play Holland or France though...

Hopefully Kenny will get to go on holidays in Holland and France but be nowhere near the Ireland squad for those games.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

portugals xG was 1.95 minus the pen. says a lot about the quality of those other 28 shots. but yeah lets see what happens , confidence on the floor after yday.

This reminds me of back when we couldn't score a goal under Kenny. His supporters were talking about the possession stats. It was embarrassing then and quoting xG is embarrassing now. He's way out of his depth at this level. Time for the Kenny fanatics to face facts. More people and media personnel are realising that they backed a flop.

[Jd2793]

This reminds me of back when we couldn't score a goal under Kenny. His supporters were talking about the possession stats. It was embarrassing then and quoting xG is embarrassing now. He's way out of his depth at this level. Time for the Kenny fanatics to face facts. More people and media personnel are realising that they backed a flop.

"stats are embarrassing unless they back up my own view"

[pineapple stu]

portugals xG was 1.95 minus the pen. says a lot about the quality of those other 28 shots. but yeah lets see what happens , confidence on the floor after yday.

Well they did get the penalty in fairness!

Here says xG was 3.2, and a penalty is about 0.75, so that's 2.45 not 1.95?

Plus when you have Ronaldo, you can expect to beat xG. It's why he's one of the best players ever

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

"stats are embarrassing unless they back up my own view"

Results under Kenny are embarrassing and no amount of spinning, spoofing and lying from him and his supporters can hide that.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

Well they did get the penalty in fairness!

Here says xG was 3.2, and a penalty is about 0.75, so that's 2.45 not 1.95?

Plus when you have Ronaldo, you can expect to beat xG. It's why he's one of the best players ever

No, no! You have to exclude that penalty and then you have to add on goals for us that we didn't actually score and then take away wins from our previous manager that we actually won followed by adding up our possession stats from certain matches and then consider that some matches were windy and then you can see that Kenny has done a superb job compared with his predecessors.

[elatedscum]

It was never a penalty. Not in a million years. VAR sent the ref across to review it cause Hendrick clearly got the ball. The ref wanting to be the one to get Ronaldo his record goal wasn’t having it

[weldoninhio]

we've not been spanked by anyone under SK though, so not really sure how you can come to that conclusion. We've been shocking against lesser sides and OK against those in or around us like scotland etc.

We haven’t really played a top tier team though. Englands 3rd string is probably the closest and that was a pointless kickabout.

[tetsujin1979]

We haven’t really played a top tier team though. Englands 3rd string is probably the closest and that was a pointless kickabout.

Portugal? Moreso in the away game, but that was a team littered with league and European medal winners

[Jd2793]

portugal are absolutely a top tier team. id argue serbia are aswell but people will debate that one. they have plenty of players who are starting in the top 5 euro leagues. serbia were better than portugal in that qualification campaign.

[weldoninhio]

Portugal? Moreso in the away game, but that was a team littered with league and European medal winners

Portugal are a decent team, but not top tier. Maybe once they get rid of the preening peacock who is well past his sell by date they’ll emerge better, but until his Me Fein ways are gone, much like last season at United, he’ll score goals, but the team will be worse for having him in it, because he demands everything goes to him.

[Jd2793]

portugal are worse with ronaldo in the team but they are still top tier, madness to suggest otherwise. cancelo and bernardo are 2 of the best players on the planet in anyones book.