2021 UEFA European Under-21 Championships

[Closed Account]

Where did you get that table?

I started with "If Armenia are disqualified".
And then worked it out based on that.

At the time, Scotland were 2-0 down at home to croatia putting them in 3rd place. That situation has changed and they are now top of the group, moving Czechia into 2nd with 12pts (+2 GD) discounting results San Marino.

[tetsujin1979]

I think we'll be ok with a win on Sunday so. Portugal should take one of the top five positions with their final fixtures, Poland will probably slip out, and we'll be in the middle somewhere.
It remains to be seen what happens with the Armenian fixtures.
In Group 7, Norway have also had their final fixtures cancelled - https://www.fotball.no/landslag/norg...linger-avlyst/

As a result of the government's updated austerity measures, all of Norway's age-specific national team gatherings will be postponed in November. J15, G15, J16, G16, J17 and J19 all had planned gatherings, in addition to the U21 national team.
- The infection situation in both Norway and the rest of Europe has worsened recently, and we have taken into account the government's advice to limit travel. We want to take our share of responsibility and thus postpone all measures for age-specific national teams, since these require extensive travel. In addition, a number of other meetings and events are postponed, says Secretary General Pål Bjerketvedt.
This includes the U21 national team's match away against Gibraltar next Friday.
- We consider it an increased health risk to travel to Gibraltar now, and can not put ourselves in a situation that can increase the risk that we can not complete our top leagues, Bjerketvedt says.

And Gibraltar's final fixture against Cyprus is also cancelled: https://www.cfa.com.cy/Gr/news/40717

The match of our National Team of Hope in Gibraltar on November 18 will not take place.
Following a previous UEFA decision to cancel the match Gibraltar - Norway (November 13), it canceled two other matches concerning the seventh group of the qualifying phase of the European U21 Championship.
Specifically, the matches Gibraltar - Cyprus and Norway - Belarus, which were scheduled for Wednesday, November 18, were canceled.
The cancellation of the matches was done because the results of the above matches in case the teams followed the program normally, would not differ anything in the group score in terms of qualifying places.
In this way, the players are certainly more protected by their movements in the difficult conditions that prevail.
It is noted that we had cancellations of matches at the level of Hope in other groups of the qualifying phase.
Our away match in Portugal, which is claiming the qualification together with the Netherlands, will normally take place next Sunday, November 15th.

[geysir]

If Armenia are disqualified, hard to tell if that's what will happen, but lets say they are. Then league table looks like:

On what grounds are you assuming Armenia could be disqualified? in the event that they finish bottom?

It's a 99.5% certainity that Armenia lose both games 1 nil and most probably Luxembourg will finish last.

[Closed Account]

On what grounds are you assuming Armenia could be disqualified? in the event that they finish bottom?

It's a 99.5% certainity that Armenia lose both games 1 nil and most probably Luxembourg will finish last.

Fair enough. Ignore.

[Razors left peg]

Lads am I right in saying that the Iceland match isnt being shown anywhere on Irish TV? When Galway United are capable of streaming live games on YouTube( in great quality) then it is ridiculous that the FAI cant manage something similar

[geysir]

Fair enough. Ignore.

It's not over until the fat lady sings,
I see the group table reads a bit wierd on the UEFA website. Armenia are down to have played 10, but Sweden and Iceland have not been given the 3 points.

[Closed Account]

It's not over until the fat lady sings,
I see the group table reads a bit wierd on the UEFA website. Armenia are down to have played 10, but Sweden and Iceland have not been given the 3 points.

But you were right, no reason to disqualify Armenia, making the rest of my points moot.
North Macedonia have equalised, good for us.

[tetsujin1979]

Lads am I right in saying that the Iceland match isnt being shown anywhere on Irish TV? When Galway United are capable of streaming live games on YouTube( in great quality) then it is ridiculous that the FAI cant manage something similar

no, its on eir sport - https://www.eirsport.ie/eir/tvguidesinfo/2254508

[elatedscum]

Lads am I right in saying that the Iceland match isnt being shown anywhere on Irish TV? When Galway United are capable of streaming live games on YouTube( in great quality) then it is ridiculous that the FAI cant manage something similar

All the home games are shown by Eir. Strange that Eir won’t buy the rights off the away nations for their feed.

[samhaydenjr]

The debate about whether we need other results need to go our way to qualify appears to have picked up again, so I want to reiterate what Eirambler pointed out to me a couple of pages ago when I thought progress wasn't completely in our hands: two wins will do it - we will be ahead of Poland in the second place table and we're already ahead of Scotland's, Czechia's and Croatia's current totals against non-last place teams, all with one such game available to pick up points in

[Razors left peg]

no, its on eir sport - https://www.eirsport.ie/eir/tvguidesinfo/2254508

Thats good news. Thanks

[tetsujin1979]

Portugal beat Belarus 3-0 last night - https://www.uefa.com/under21/match/2026730/ - and are now second in the rankings of second placed sides - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_U...d-placed_teams - pushing us out of the top five.

Pos	Grp	Team	Pld	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Pts	Qualification
1	2	France (Q)	7	6	0	1	19	9	+10	18	Final tournament
2	7	Portugal	6	5	0	1	18	7	+11	15
3	5	Poland	8	4	2	2	15	7	+8	14
4	9	Belgium	7	4	1	2	16	6	+10	13
5	8	Romania	7	4	1	2	14	5	+9	13
6	1	Republic of Ireland	7	4	1	2	9	5	+4	13
7	3	Austria	7	4	0	3	15	12	+3	12
8	4	Czech Republic	7	3	3	1	6	4	+2	12
9	6	North Macedonia	7	2	3	2	9	9	0	9

It's a little easier to see what's needed from the table now. Beat Iceland, finish on 16 points, and in the top five of the second placed sides.
Draw and we'll probably finish third, lose and we'll be fourth in the group, depending on how the two cancelled Armenian fixtures are awarded

[geysir]

News report that Armenia did not travel to a neutral country to fulfil their group qual fixtures due to many players testing positive with corona virus.
In that event, it's a formality that both Sweden and Iceland be gifted the 1 nil victory.

[geysir]

IN the game of the evening, @ HT England 1 -1 Andorra

[Razors left peg]

If Parrott gets a goal or 2 on Sunday will he get call up to seniors for Wednesday?

[tetsujin1979]

It's a possibility, and given that the U21s are playing Luxembourg in their final game, he might not be the only one

[tetsujin1979]

IN the game of the evening, @ HT England 1 -1 Andorra

They drew 3-3 in Andorra a month ago

[geysir]

They drew 3-3 in Andorra a month ago

That was the game of October.

[Kingdom]

Portugal beat Belarus 3-0 last night - https://www.uefa.com/under21/match/2026730/ - and are now second in the rankings of second placed sides - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_U...d-placed_teams - pushing us out of the top five.

Pos	Grp	Team	Pld	W	D	L	GF	GA	GD	Pts	Qualification
1	2	France (Q)	7	6	0	1	19	9	+10	18	Final tournament
2	7	Portugal	6	5	0	1	18	7	+11	15
3	5	Poland	8	4	2	2	15	7	+8	14
4	9	Belgium	7	4	1	2	16	6	+10	13
5	8	Romania	7	4	1	2	14	5	+9	13
6	1	Republic of Ireland	7	4	1	2	9	5	+4	13
7	3	Austria	7	4	0	3	15	12	+3	12
8	4	Czech Republic	7	3	3	1	6	4	+2	12
9	6	North Macedonia	7	2	3	2	9	9	0	9

It's a little easier to see what's needed from the table now. Beat Iceland, finish on 16 points, and in the top five of the second placed sides.
Draw and we'll probably finish third, lose and we'll be fourth in the group, depending on how the two cancelled Armenian fixtures are awarded

If we draw with Iceland, were still as likely to finish 2nd, unless you’re expecting Sweden to go and win in Italy?

[tetsujin1979]

If we do draw, then we'll have 14 points in the second placed teams table, and a goal difference of +4, Austria and the Czechs could leapfrog with a win in their final games, to give them 15 points.
A win secures qualification, a draw makes it extremely unlikely