Joe Hodge on standby according to this interview with Crawford: https://www.the42.ie/jim-crawford-on...57921-Nov2020/
Joe Hodge is on standby. Joe Hodge is an extremely talented player. I’ve been talking to his dad a number of times before the FA Cup Youth final and what have you. Joe was with us in September up in Belfast and he is a hell of a talent
Farugia is injured, yeah, missed the last few games for Rovers.Originally Posted by elatedscum
Is this the first time Irish surnames were in the minority in an Irish squad?
Sign of the times.
Not bemoaning the fact of course. Just an observation.
Folding my way into the big money!!!
As in an Irish Gaelic surname.
I count 10. I wouldn’t count Parrott as an Irish surname. Nothing to do with the individuals involved.
I understand that post could be seen in the wrong light, which is why I said I wasn’t bemoaning the fact. It is a sign of progress and multiculturalism. And also a sign that the world is getting smaller.
I don't think it's multiculturalism btw. If everywhere becomes the same - which is kind of what you're saying in the latter sentence - that's monoculturalism, not multiculturalism.
Well that's going deep into it I guess. But I know what you mean I think. Multiculturalism eventually becomes monoculturalism.
Anyway, I don't care as long as they win and it feeds into us getting into major tournaments!!!
Folding my way into the big money!!!
Pretty much.
If you read Patrick Leigh-Fermor's books on his walk from Holland to Constantinople in 1933-35, what jumps out is the huge diversity everywhere he went - each country had different names, costumes, cultures, traditions, foods, and so on. In 1969, the head of NASA was actually wary that the new EEC might "destroy the vast diversity that is Europe's gift to the world" And now today, so much of Europe is the exact same - yet we somehow think that we're being more diverse when in fact the exact opposite is the case.
I think it's sad in a way. And it leads to greater social inequality too when you can import so much cheap labour, or take poorer countries' top people from then. Too much of the world thinks that it's only way forward is to escape to Europe or the US on a raft and pick fruit, but that's partly because so much wealth is being accumulated there when it could be so much better distributed.
But you know - so long as we win a football match, then...
Anyways, a different thread for sure!
If only we could go back to 1930s Europe, such a great time to be alive. Especially that stretch of Europe from Holland to Turkey. Good times.
Anyway, back on topic, Afolabi came off injured in his last game for Dundee, wonder will he be fit enough to start?
Afolabi has been ruled out. Ryan Cassidy called up as replacement.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Armenia's 2 home games V Sweden and Iceland have been cancelled. There was a plan to play them in Cyprus but I see that has been dropped.
Iceland's rearranged qualifier against Italy is kicking off at 1:15.
You can follow live updates for the game here
https://www.uefa.com/under21/match/2...land-vs-italy/
Iceland have just equalised, 1-1 now. We will need to beat Iceland regardless of the result today but if it ends with a home win it would mean we could potentially top the group with 2 wins. edit: the same applies with a draw actually...
30 mins to play.
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If it was a draw with Iceland and thus finish joint top with Iceland - wouldn't they top the group as they have the better head to head record?
Goal Italy
All over.
What's the story with Armenias cancelled games, do Iceland/Sweden automatically get 3 pts?
Last edited by Closed Account; 12/11/2020 at 2:09 PM.
Looked like it was heading for a draw but for a deflection assisted winner late in the game.
I don't think it's automatic, probably it will have to go before a committee and they decide according to the competition format rules. As there's no window to reschedule, Armenia probably will have to default both games 1 nil.
If Armenia are disqualified, hard to tell if that's what will happen, but lets say they are. Then league table looks like:
1. Italy 6 4 1 1 12-4 8 13 2. Sweden 7 4 0 3 17-8 9 12 3. Iceland 7 4 0 2 8-10 -2 12 4. Ireland 6 3 1 2 10-5 5 10 5. Luxembourg 6 0 0 6 0-20 -20 0
If we give Ireland and Italy presumptive 3-0 victories over Luxembourg (if we don't/can't beat luxembourg, then forget about it)
The 1-0 victories against Armenia being discounted will work in our favour to increase our GD
1. Italy 7 5 1 1 15-4 11 16 2. Ireland 7 4 1 2 13-5 8 13 3. Sweden 7 4 0 3 17-8 9 12 4. Iceland 7 4 0 2 8-10 -2 12 5. Luxembourg 8 0 0 8 0-20 -20 0
A win against Iceland and a healthy score against Luxembourg should get us through.
A draw against Iceland probably wouldn't be enough to be one of the best 2nd place teams assuming Italy get a result against Sweden.
We'd have 14pts and have goal difference of 5 (plus whatever we beat luxembourg by)
France and probably Portugal will have more than 14pts
We should be looking for Austria (v Turkey 13th), Belgium(v Bosnia 17th), Romania(v Denmark 17th) and Croatia(v Lithuania 17th) to draw or worse.
Hopefully we can catch Polands goal difference.
An Israel win against North Macedonia or a draw would help there.
Grp Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification 2 France 7 6 0 1 19 9 10 18 Final tournament 5 Poland 8 4 2 2 15 7 8 14 9 Belgium 7 4 1 2 16 6 10 13 v Bosnia 17th 8 Romania 7 4 1 2 14 5 9 13 v Denmark 17th 4 Croatia 7 4 1 2 11 5 6 13 v Lithuania 17th 7 Portugal 5 4 0 1 15 7 8 12 Belarus, Cyprus, Netherlands 3 Austria 7 4 0 3 15 12 3 12 v Turkey 13th 1 Republic of Ireland 6 3 1 2 10 5 5 10 6 North Macedonia 6 2 2 2 8 8 0 8 v Israel today
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Where did you get that table?
According to the table on wikipedia, we're on 13 points, and fifth in the rankings of second placed sides - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_U...d-placed_teams
Pos Grp Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification 1 2 France 7 6 0 1 19 9 +10 18 Final tournament 2 5 Poland 8 4 2 2 15 7 +8 14 3 9 Belgium 7 4 1 2 16 6 +10 13 4 8 Romania 7 4 1 2 14 5 +9 13 5 1 Republic of Ireland 7 4 1 2 9 5 +4 13 6 7 Portugal 5 4 0 1 15 7 +8 12 7 3 Austria 7 4 0 3 15 12 +3 12 8 4 Scotland 6 3 2 1 5 2 +3 11 9 6 North Macedonia 6 2 2 2 8 8 0 8
France, or Switzerland if they finish second, should top the table, probably with 19 points.
Let's say Portugal get two wins and a draw from their final three fixtures giving them 19 points
Belgium are away to Bosnia on Tuesday, let's say they win and finish with 16 points
If we beat Iceland, we'll finish with 16 points points, since the result against Luxembourg will be discarded
Austria face second bottom Turkey tomorrow, a win puts them on 15 points - they're playing bottom side Andorra on Tuesday
Romania are facing already qualified Denmark on Tuesday at home, a draw and they finish with 14 points, a win would put them ahead of us on 16 points, but with a superior goal difference
Poland can't earn any more than the 14 points they already have - their final fixture is with bottom of their group Latvia - and could slip out of the top five
Scotland should get at least four points in their final two fixtures, leaving them with fifteen - two wins put them on seventeen
If North Macedonia win both games, they'll have 14 points, so can't overtake us
So we need to hope for Scotland to not win one of their last two games - home to Croatia, who they beat in Croatia, and away to Greece who beat them in Edinburgh
OR
hope Romania don't beat Denmark on Tuesday
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