But surely it's a breach of the club's licence which means the FAI definitely should be there?Originally Posted by sbgawa
They aren't in breach as they have paid the players, you could say Harps were in breech when they were saying they were in trouble recently because of all the games postponements on the same basis. (not having a pop at Harps my third favourites ).
I guess the players are trying to embarrass the club into letting them go or else providing the guarantees they are looking for but I reckon O Connor has a very high embarrassment threshold.
Will the PFAI ask all other clubs for a guarantee that they have funding in place to see out the season ? Can't see too many clubs been able to guarantee this.
Agreed but up until Bray don't pay their bills they aren't in breach of the player contracts and the players cant simply walk away.
Bray claim they have secured investment to pay salaries until the end of the season, investment that was pulled like a rabbit out of a hat.
It is understandable that the players would want to check the bona fides of this suddenly appearing investment.
its none of their business where the investment has come from or bona fides, their first statement is basically questioning the integrity of the chairman if they hadnt have come public on the issue they might have got an answer no chance now
heres whats going to happen. Bray will continue paying their players until about... mid August - early September. Then wallop - we need you to take massive pay cuts. The players know this, thats why they want out now, or a guarantee that the money is there. This is their living we're talking about. They have bills to pay and food to put on the table. We've seen it before and we'll see it again.
Given the statement from the Bray chairman two weeks ago regarding paying wages, I think it is very much the business of the players. As EP says , these are people with families and bills to pay.
We will see bonds having to be lodged with the FAI yet at the beginning of seasons or a % wage budget ringfenced in advance with the threshold creeping up annually over a period of time under some licencing criteria. I know this isnt viable when clubs live hand to mouth but precedence has been set where clubs in financial difficulty were asked to produce some sort of bond to get a licence - Drogheda was certainly one.
How can the Fai not answer letters or attend meetings as they run the league. Players livelihood at stake here time for the pfai to distance themselves from their cosy relationship with the fai.
In fairness though, no other club has told their players that they've run out of money. You can understand the players being sceptical.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
Have the other clubs given the PFAI the same concerns Bray have this season? Those behind the scenes can't expect to cause the fuss they have with the statement they released during a game and then expect everyone to assume all is well again just because they say so. They caused this mess, if they now have a remedy for it then they need to rebuild some bridges and show their workings.
Licencing should require a budget that has same gates and same sponsorship as previous season (no hoped for increases) anything above this should have to guaranteed by a bank guarantee.
I agree but i'd presume that imagined increases in crowds would have to be limited for budget increases to be passed (you'd hope). If 'investors' do come in like with Bray there could be room for requesting that investment to be 50% or so lodged with the FAI. such investment isnt reliant on match day income, if they have the money to invest properly they could fulfil such a requirement. If they cant do do or wont then the 'investment' would have to flag up concern not least with players if they are signing large 2 and 3 years contracts with no certainty that the contracts will be honoured. Rules that i thought were there already but it seems not but if a player is not payed over a set period of time in this sort of exceptional case they should become free agents and allowed sign elsewhere even outside a transfer window. I'd also have players contracts linked to the investor if possible so if they just pull investment rather than run out of money themselves the contract signed must still be honoured. I dont know how this would work legally but something like a guarantor from the investor?
Will Bray players turn up for the Cork game?
Literally or figuratively? Literally they have to. Hopefully they're heads are elsewhere though
We are the Galway Boys Stand up and make some noise"
Update in which the previous new investment is gone but more expected soon. 4 or 5 players have asked for contracts to be cancelled but board say it's all players or none.
And Denis O Connor complains about this being played out in the media.
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football...-be-cancelled/
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So many questions.
A source said: “Dylan Connolly is the only player in years to have moved for a fee. If you want a transfer in this league, you get a contract cancelled.”
Kieran Sadlier moved for a fee 3 days later
Denis O'Connor has this evening resigned as chairman of the club. Full statement: http://braywanderersfc.ie/denis-ocon...-wanderers-fc/
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