FC Vaduz are in the Swiss top flight now, but you are of course right in pointing out that Liechtenstein doesn't have a domestic league of its own.
My point was more that while some people will probably be dismissive a move to the Cypriot leagueit is 23 places ahead of the LoI in the UEFA country coefficients and it does have a number of international players playing in it.
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Yeah, and of course when Sheridan was there (playing in the CL groups in the Camp Nou), he wasn't good enough to be in the national squad. Yet in a way, if Byrne is a fringe player at best on the national team (which is now poorer than five years ago), that makes the Cypriot league a reasonable place for him to move to.
Sheridan's competition was a good deal stronger than Byrne's to be fair. And Sheridan was probably always a bit short of the minimum standard.Originally Posted by pineapple stu
A move to Cyprus would be a step forward for Jack. Obviously don't want to lose him but it'd be silly to think it isn't an opportunity for him to improve against better opposition.
A nice place to play football. If it was a decent financial option and there was no considerably better offers why not go for it ? Also a manager he knows.
I still think out of sight, out of mind.
Even if he is playing at a higher level, it's hard not to think he'll be ignored cos he's not playing in UK or Ireland. Or even western continental Europe
Folding my way into the big money!!!
If he goes to Cyprus its a financial move and nothing else. Football wise its not much better than a step sideways. He'd be better off trying to get a move to the MLS.
The MLS must be one of the world's most over-rated leagues tbh. And financially, it's not great for a surprisingly large chunk of the players involved.
How do you figure that? The Cypriot league is miles better than the LoI.
The MLS is a career graveyard unless you're a star player to begin with.
Cyprus in an Irish Winter = = I’m Orf.
Im far from suggesting that he move to the MLS, Im equating it with the Cypriot league to be honest. But it is more high profile and financially would be better than what he would earn in Cyprus.
IF and its a big if, Byrne is serious about becoming a high level footballer his next move is critical. I would probably rather he go somewhere like Nicosia than Millwall from a style of football perspective, but Id rather he go to a good footballing team in the Championship.
It's really hard to judge salaries. Here's a salary chart for the MLS in 2018 for example (they publish individual salaries every year) -
Median (ie what half the players earn less than) is $140k, or about E115k. That's not huge money - E2.2k a week. Wouldn't be much of an increase from his time at Rovers I'd say. I don't see what Byrne has done to be in the top half of earners, but in any event you can see it increases very slowly until the top 6/7%
APOEL's budget is around E10m a year, so they could easily match the MLS for salaries. Say two-thirds of that is salaries - that means they're paying E130k a week in salaries. That'd include admin staff, coaches, star players taking a good chunk, etc, etc - but you can see they could probably afford E2-3k a week easily enough.
Obviously covid is going to play havoc with budgets everywhere.
Is the MLS higher profile than Cyprus? I don't know it is. Playing in Europe with a top Cypriot team would have him in some decent grounds (Sevilla, Ajax and Basel last year for example; Dortmund, Spurs and Bayern two years before). No MLS team will get you that kind of exposure.
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Jaysus how to you argue with someone who brings a chart to the arguement LOL.It's really hard to judge salaries. Here's a salary chart for the MLS in 2018 for example (they publish individual salaries every year) -
Median (ie what half the players earn less than) is $140k, or about E115k. That's not huge money - E2.2k a week. Wouldn't be much of an increase from his time at Rovers I'd say. I don't see what Byrne has done to be in the top half of earners, but in any event you can see it increases very slowly until the top 6/7%
APOEL's budget is around E10m a year, so they could easily match the MLS for salaries. Say two-thirds of that is salaries - that means they're paying E130k a week in salaries. That'd include admin staff, coaches, star players taking a good chunk, etc, etc - but you can see they could probably afford E2-3k a week easily enough.
Obviously covid is going to play havoc with budgets everywhere.
Is the MLS higher profile than Cyprus? I don't know it is. Playing in Europe with a top Cypriot team would have him in some decent grounds (Sevilla, Ajax and Basel last year for example; Dortmund, Spurs and Bayern two years before). No MLS team will get you that kind of exposure.
Fair points though. I do still think that going to Cyprus to Mick McCarthy is a bit of a weird one though and possibly just speculation. Mick didnt rate Byrne too highly when he was Ireland manager and most likely wont even be there by end of season judging by how quickly they go through pmanagers.
I really dont want Byrne in MLS or Cyprus. I'd love to see him go back to Holland, but the more realistic option might be a Bournemouth
Us accountants can sniff a chart out from miles away.
On a side note, it is really weird that the MLS publish the salaries of every player each year. Here's 2019 for example. Has no-one thought to say "That's none of your ****ing business"?
It happens with all sports over here. Its for salary cap reasons in NFL and NBA so I suppose its expected in all sportsUs accountants can sniff a chart out from miles away.
On a side note, it is really weird that the MLS publish the salaries of every player each year. Here's 2019 for example. Has no-one thought to say "That's none of your ****ing business"?
Kenny has experienced up close the gulf in standard between the League of Ireland and Cyprus so I doubt he'd be one to turn up his nose. The scouting videos, etc, would all be more extensive for there than they are here, and presumably by next year Kenny will be spending more time at games in England than Ireland.
Surely you can just publish them to the MLS rather than to everyone though?
I think it's partly because leagues are allowed operate openly as cartels there, so there's complete openness about salaries so that players and players' unions can deal with full information as a sop.Us accountants can sniff a chart out from miles away.
On a side note, it is really weird that the MLS publish the salaries of every player each year. Here's 2019 for example. Has no-one thought to say "That's none of your ****ing business"?
Funnily enough Sport in America can be a ‘ bit ‘ socialist. In American Football the weaker teams get the best picks in the draft of players from the colleges ~ ~ well it used to be that way, I haven’t kept up with this for years.
The 'socialist' thing is overblown. American sport is hypercapitalist - the leagues are cartels controlled by the rich and they distribute some resources among themselves to the exclusion of others. I suppose you could compare it to Russian communist party.
I did say a ‘ bit ‘ re the draft of young players.
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