Yes, stats can be manipulated just about any old way. I say he has scored 1 competitive goal, you say he's only started two competitive games. But if you add up all the minutes he's had on the pitch in competitive games, I wonder what does that add up to? I don't think any or at least very few Irish fans have anything negative to say about Long. He's just the media's latest stick to beat Trapp with. I wouldn't select him ahead of either Keane or Walters but I can understand why others might. However, it's not as cut and dried as a few recent goals in the EPL might make out.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
If Westwood is to continue with launching missiles, then hulk Walters would be favored over Long.
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Long has 341 minutes over 10 competitive appearances. This gives him an average of 34.1 minutes on the pitch for each competitive cap he has under Trapattoni.
In comparison, Simon Cox has 503 minutes of competitive action (0 goals) spread over 12 competitive caps. An average of 41.9 minutes per competitive cap.
Jon Walters has 439 minutes (2 goals (Estonia, Faroes)) spread over 8 competitive caps. An average of 54.9 minutes per competitive cap.
We have played a total of 2,700 minutes of competitive football under Trapattoni (disregarding injury time and extratime in Paris). Using this;
Long has played 12.6% of all competitive minutes under Trapattoni,
Cox has played 18.6%, and
Walters has played 16.3%.
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Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Dunphy is slating Man City saying they are brutal. He said they only won the league because they can get away with being a poor team when playing against clubs like Swansea who will just give the ball straight back to them. It wasn't even 6 months ago that auld Eamo was showing clips of Swansea playing before Ireland matches and saying that's how we should be playing
Did he use Swansea as an example? Otherwise I think he's basically right. I think City (and United) benefit from teams basically writing the game off and concentrating on more important fixtures. In the Champions League, every game is a huge game and teams will be going out with the belief they can win.
Ye he named Swansea and Fulham I think. Darragh gave out to him for calling Mancini a clown as well
Those were some odd examples to pick. Fulham are playing some lovely stuff with fairly limited footballers under Jol. I'd say it's more a case that players at Swansea and Fulham don't have the quality to concentrate for 90 minutes with the likes of Silva and Aguero bombing at them incessantly.
Sure doesn't Eamo only watch Spanish football anyway?
I'd share a lot of your opinions usually, but what constitutes a limited footballer these days? I would say Fulham have one of the most techically gifted squads around, with a number of superb players. Even the limited players they have (the likes of Sidwell
I took their first team squad from wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulham_...rst-team_squad
They have a competent back 4, with one of the best centre backs around in Hangeland (he struggled with the supposed attentions of Arsenal a bit last season). They have players like Diarra, Duff, Ruiz, Petric, Berbatov, Rodallega and a couple of excellent young players in Dalle Valle and Kaca.
They are far from a limited team. But they do play lovely football.
Agree with the main point of the last few posts re: the bigger teams and the perceived weaker teams. The capitulation of the smaller clubs in England is a real head-scratcher.
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And the thing was, Tony thought it was all great gas as he managed to pull off an incredible string of goofs and fumble about blindly when a more sensible individual would have been hoping to be beamed out of there, up to RTE heaven.
Paul Jewel leaves Ipswich Town bottom of the Championship. The man the Panel was touting to be our new manager when Stan departed. Not even touting, I mean interviewing. Pity this thread is closed: http://foot.ie/threads/76585-Paul-Jewell/page7
Didn't see the programme last night. I cannot believe Dunphy was using Swansea as a negative example last night. A few weeks ago he was holding them up as the shining example of how Ireland should be playing including showing clips.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Yeah he used Swansea as an example of a team that gives the ball straight back to them. I got the impression he probably knew after saying it that it wasn't the best example to use, but he continued with his nonsensical rant instead of back tracking. Ironically enough, he continued by saying Manchester City would be far better off with Martin O'Neill or (and wait for it.....) Brendan Rodgers managing them. Now, one can only assume that he chose Rodgers as an example because of the lovely controlled football he had Swansea playing last season! Darragh really could have laid in to him after that one but I suppose with the likes of Dunphy you can't win, no matter how stupid you make them look.
Dunphy's reaction to Darragh saying that he's not comfortable with calling Mancini a clown was funny enough- "Ah come on, it's only TV".
It was if Dunphy was saying 'look Darragh, you can't be serious, I'm only following the script of my contract with RTE to be overly hypocritical and contradictory, don't give me a hard time about it'
Bill O'Herlihy has written a book - Eamonn encouraged him!
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