Dan Crowley M Notts County b.1997

**Stuttgart88** · 07/10/2014, 10:46 AM

There was a big accountancy firm HQd in Dublin, Stokes Kennedy Crowley, bought by KPMG. Locals definitely pronounced it like the bird rather than bovine.

**Stuttgart88** · 07/10/2014, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

That hurts POS, hurts to the bone. If a dog is born in a barn does that make him a horse?

I think you're being insensitive to dual animal classification issues. I think the dog should be allowed to call himself a horse if he wants. Do we know why he was born in a stable? Perhaps he descended from horses and is very proud of his equine heritage. Perhaps he raced at Cheltenham as a puppy. However, if he tweets woof even while wearing horseshoes it will clearly mean that he is a dog and that's it, even if he asks for time to sort out his identification issues.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 07/10/2014, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

You should have this as your signature, AB:

What is mind?
Does it matter?
What is matter?
Never mind!

Only when people talk complete drivel...

And that 'rhyme', original? If so, almost impressed...

**DannyInvincible** · 07/10/2014, 11:22 AM

Afraid not. It's usually attributed to George Berkeley in some form or another.

**punkrocket** · 07/10/2014, 11:45 AM

So is that bark like a dog or berk like "you silly berk" Danny?

**Stuttgart88** · 07/10/2014, 11:54 AM

Do you know where the term "berk" comes from?

Apparently it has its roots in rhyming slang. Berkshire Hunt = ?

Ironically Berkshire is pronounced Barkshire.

**Kingdom** · 07/10/2014, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

Afraid not. It's usually attributed to George Berkeley in some form or another.

Jees, I associate it with Homer Simpson.

**punkrocket** · 07/10/2014, 12:11 PM

I think a spot of barking mad cow disease has broken out here.

**tetsujin1979** · 07/10/2014, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

Jees, I associate it with Homer Simpson.

ditto

**paul_oshea** · 07/10/2014, 1:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

That hurts POS, hurts to the bone. If a dog is born in a barn does that make him a horse?

I think its, if a donkey is born in a stable does it make him a horse, more similar genetic makeup, attributes and characteristics to a horse than a dog.

If you read that author from Limerick who by all accounts sounded like a bit of knob you would have read the quote in there. :P

You can be wherever you want to be from. Who won the All-Ireland this year?! oh ya the Kingdom....

**Kingdom** · 07/10/2014, 1:24 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I think its, if a donkey is born in a stable does it make him a horse, more similar genetic makeup, attributes and characteristics to a horse than a dog.

If you read that author from Limerick who by all accounts sounded like a bit of knob you would have read the quote in there. :P

You can be wherever you want to be from. Who won the All-Ireland this year?! oh ya the Kingdom....

It was hard to be a supporter during the late 80's and early 90's, living in Dublin, supporting Kerry. Damn bloody hard.

**DannyInvincible** · 07/10/2014, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I think its, if a donkey is born in a stable does it make him a horse, more similar genetic makeup, attributes and characteristics to a horse than a dog.

If you read that author from Limerick who by all accounts sounded like a bit of knob you would have read the quote in there. :P

Which author from Limerick? That phrase is often misattributed to Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington, who was born in Dublin. It is assumed that he denied any possible Irish identity whilst instead favouring to identify solely as British. It was actually Daniel O'Connell who first used it though in order to mock Wellesley and deny his right to claim himself a true Irishman simply by virtue of having been born in Dublin.

**Charlie Darwin** · 07/10/2014, 5:59 PM

I assume he means Frank McCourt.

**DannyInvincible** · 08/10/2014, 1:27 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I assume he means Frank McCourt.

Indeed, I'd made a post earlier having initially forgotten McCourt was born in New York, but I guess he may well have used the phrase to assert his Irishness, although it certainly wouldn't have been his originally.

**paul_oshea** · 08/10/2014, 8:14 AM

No it wasn't attributed to him either, but he quoted it in his book from a Professor in New York. Born in New York and returned to New York, but grew up in Limerick.

Interesting that I said he sounded like a knob that CD knew from that I was on about him :P

**DannyInvincible** · 08/10/2014, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Interesting that I said he sounded like a knob that CD knew from that I was on about him :P

'Tis.

**Charlie Darwin** · 21/10/2014, 5:27 PM

2 in the opening 29 minutes for Crowley at Anderlecht in the Youth League - it's 2-2 now.

**DannyInvincible** · 22/10/2014, 9:34 PM

He ended up with a hat-trick after winning and converting a penalty for his third, although Arsenal lost 4-3. Highlights here:

Just Crowley's goals here: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v...705382&fref=nf

Some lovely stuff.

**Kingdom** · 23/10/2014, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

He ended up with a hat-trick after winning and converting a penalty for his third, although Arsenal lost 4-3. Highlights here:

Some lovely stuff.

Defending definitely is the lost art then.....

**tetsujin1979** · 23/10/2014, 1:31 PM

FWIW Crowley wasn't named in the England squad for their recent U19 qualifiers. The FAI are hosting Ireland's U19 games in Waterford in a few weeks: http://www.uefa.com/under19/season=2...hes/index.html
I'd imagine the squad will be named around the 1st November.

As with all other dual-nationality players, you can read whatever you want into it.