Tallaght Stadium or Aviva Stadium for Shamrock RVS??

**Charlie Darwin** · 27/08/2011, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

The four team group format is designed to weed out the smaller teams. It's much more difficult to emerge over better teams through six stand alone games than it is a two legged cup tie. If I were a Rovers fan I'd be hoping to make as large a stack of money as possible so it can be reinvested to bring more opportunities like this in the future. I see the merits or you're point of view but I don't agree it would be like cheating.

The way to bring more opportunities like this is to give the team 3 attritional home games against better European opposition so the players are as battle-hardened for the qualifiers next year. That's best achieved by playing the games in Tallaght. It would take the most optimistic Hoops fan in the world to think we have anything other than a slim chance of coming out of the group but what we can do is get experience of playing these types of teams in a hostile home environment. That'll stand the team much better than any circus in the Aviva.

**DannyInvincible** · 28/08/2011, 2:51 AM

UEFA website has the Rubin Kazan game down for Lansdowne: http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...277/index.html

**DannyInvincible** · 28/08/2011, 2:54 AM

I don't know how accurate that is though.

Found this on there as well. Bit of reaction to the draw and a brief interview with Jonathan Roche: http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...?autoplay=true

**mypost** · 28/08/2011, 2:58 AM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

The four team group format is designed to weed out the smaller teams.

That's what the qualifying games are for.

Every team has earned the right to make it this far, and you get much closer games from now on.

**DannyInvincible** · 28/08/2011, 3:08 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

Every team has earned the right to make it this far

Not Sion, surely.

**Spudulika** · 28/08/2011, 3:23 AM

Originally Posted by CuanaD

Is that 75k per game or for 3 games?
To put it another way - that's 5000 adults at €15/ticket - so you have to get in 5001 adults more than you will in tallaght before it is economical to move to RDS.

Per game as far as I remember from a discussion with Leinster folk. Though this can be reduced for goodwill, though the risk of crowd violence would preclude it. However when you consider it's site AND personnel, it's not so bad. Because there is another factor to add to the Tallaght scenario - cost of installing temporary seats, extra staffing and insurance. Itmight end up being more economical to go to the RDS after all.

**Straightstory** · 28/08/2011, 8:44 AM

Hope it's Tallaght.
Having been to the RDS for a couple of Cup Finals and an international, I'm always left with the impression it's the kind of stadium that can be packed up in a box afterwards and taken away to be assembled somewhere else.

**Knoert** · 28/08/2011, 9:27 AM

Think the RDS would be the best option, three games have to be played at the same stadium and the Aviva is way too big for matches against PAOK and Kazan.
Tallaght is too small, Rovers can gain much more money playing in a bigger stadium.

**galwayhoop** · 28/08/2011, 1:33 PM

Originally Posted by Knoert

Think the RDS would be the best option, three games have to be played at the same stadium and the Aviva is way too big for matches against PAOK and Kazan.
Tallaght is too small, Rovers can gain much more money playing in a bigger stadium.

Why not sell the tickets as a package of 3, say €35 for the 3 games and go to Aviva, it'd be reasonable enough to attract the Spurs 'fans' to just buy the package?

**Buller** · 28/08/2011, 2:18 PM

We're gonna try to keep it at home as a reward to the fans. RDS is definately a non-runner. It's a shame we cant have the Spurs match in Aviva and then the other 2 in Tallaght but Uefa rules prevent this.
Ideal scenario would be to keep all games at home in Tallaght if we were allowed temp seating to boost the capacity to 12,000.

**sullanefc** · 28/08/2011, 2:45 PM

Was at the RDS for the cup final against Longford. It's a hole. Keep it in Tallaght, or else cash in on the spurs game at the aviva. Only problem with that is that Shamrock could be out of contention at that stage, spurs will play a second xi and the crowd get be less than expected

**Acornvilla** · 28/08/2011, 3:53 PM

Originally Posted by sullanefc

Was at the RDS for the cup final against Longford. It's a hole. Keep it in Tallaght, or else cash in on the spurs game at the aviva. Only problem with that is that Shamrock could be out of contention at that stage, spurs will play a second xi and the crowd get be less than expected

Yeah remember the few thousand of both Cork and longford supporters stuck out in the bloody wind and rain, it was ahorrible place to be if the weathers bad

**passinginterest** · 28/08/2011, 5:08 PM

If it has to go to the Aviva then the tickets should be sold as a package, €50ish for the three games should mean at least 20-30 thousand sales, between curiosity to see the first ever group stage game for an Irish team against Kazan and the obvious draw of Spurs. It's probably the only way they can be sure of not making a loss. Hopefully some way can be found to keep it in Tallaght and accommodate as many as possible there.

**nigel-harps1954** · 28/08/2011, 6:43 PM

Originally Posted by passinginterest

If it has to go to the Aviva then the tickets should be sold as a package, €50ish for the three games should mean at least 20-30 thousand sales, between curiosity to see the first ever group stage game for an Irish team against Kazan and the obvious draw of Spurs. It's probably the only way they can be sure of not making a loss. Hopefully some way can be found to keep it in Tallaght and accommodate as many as possible there.

Hold on, €50 for 3 games? Dunno about you guys but I wouldn't bother my hole with prices like that.
I agree with the package idea in the Aviva, a package of €30 for 3 games, or €15 per game would be excellent affordable rates for any LOI fan to go with in the current recession.
The fact you'll only get 20,000 in the Aviva though for each game maximum is a real bummer for the club and the league itself. A bad reflection by all accounts.

If at all possible I'd love to see them play the games in Tallaght. If only for the atmosphere and whatever possible chance of an upset, its worth it in my opinion.

**hoopy** · 28/08/2011, 7:57 PM

Club's more hopeful today than yesterday that the games can take place in Tallaght.

**mypost** · 28/08/2011, 8:04 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Hold on, €50 for 3 games? Dunno about you guys but I wouldn't bother my hole with prices like that.
I agree with the package idea in the Aviva, a package of €30 for 3 games, or €15 per game would be excellent affordable rates for any LOI fan to go with in the current recession.

Normal admission prices are 15, that would be 45 for all games, so 30 for 3 games is not going to happen. Given the standard price, and the increased operating costs, 50-60 for 3 games is a fair price.

**Mr A** · 28/08/2011, 8:32 PM

Maybe Rovers or SDCC can get a special grant like Connacht did: http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2011/0828/connacht.html

**TiocfaidhArmani** · 29/08/2011, 8:13 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

Normal admission prices are 15, that would be 45 for all games, so 30 for 3 games is not going to happen. Given the standard price, and the increased operating costs, 50-60 for 3 games is a fair price.

€600k to rent the Aviva for three games and folk want rock botom prices! Should be €20 a game. It's top flight football in a nice arena, €20 is not asking much and feck it Spurs should be €30.

**Spudulika** · 29/08/2011, 8:19 AM

It would be great to keep it in Tallaght (I'd still favour the RDS option) and knowing Rovers they might just do something completely out of the ordinary and make a minimal profit for long term gain. They'll make the money back away from ticket prices, but the best thing is that we don't have any nudged airheads claiming it should take place in Croker or in Anfield!

**Straightstory** · 29/08/2011, 9:45 AM

Tallaght, especially if the capacity can be increased, is the best option. UEFA seem to exist, though, to keep the big clubs happy and put as many obstacles as they can in the way of smaller clubs. The rule that all three home games have to be played in the same stadium is just daft.