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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Yer arse - it's an hours drive.
    Most of the underage kids in Belfast don't drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    That way there's no need for "proxy" anything.
    There's no need to even change the existing setup either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrigaline View Post
    There's no need to even change the existing setup either.
    That was my second suggestion. But the OWC fans whinging has to stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman View Post
    Failing that we continue as we do now, the Public funded IFA training ALL kids from NI who then get to choose at an appropriate age their international career (with no whinging from OWC fans!)
    "Appropriate age" being when they realise it was their "boyhood dream" to play for the South.

    By the way, I suspect you have little understanding of where IFA income (or, indeed, that of the Northern Ireland Executive) is generated.
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    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman View Post
    Most of the underage kids in Belfast don't drive
    They can get a lift - or a bus.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman View Post
    But the OWC fans whinging has to stop
    What does it matter if they whinge or don't whinge?
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
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    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    "Appropriate age" being when they realise it was their "boyhood dream" to play for the South.

    By the way, I suspect you have little understanding of where IFA income (or, indeed, that of the Northern Ireland Executive) is generated.
    It largely comes from the English taxpayer who have to maintain your little state.

    But some of it comes from the taxpayers of NI, so nationalist taxpayers have the right to see their taxes appropriately spent on their team

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman View Post
    Most of the underage kids in Belfast don't drive
    Have you been to West Belfast?
    Last edited by The Fly; 09/08/2011 at 5:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrigaline View Post
    There's no need to even change the existing setup either.
    In what regard?
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    They can get a lift - or a bus.
    Or else they can stay where they are, play for whoever they want to play for, and then make their permanent decision when they're called up for a competitive senior international.

    Do you really expect FIFA to tear up the statute books just because Northern Ireland are driving Catholic players away from their national team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantheman View Post
    It largely comes from the English taxpayer who have to maintain your little state.
    That's nearly right - it largely comes from mainland UK taxpayers, who help to maintain this integral constituent part of the United Kingdom. The joys of Union.

    Who is maintaining the Republic Of Ireland nowadays? Germans, is it? - whoever it is, ask them for a rap towards your "camps".
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    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrigaline View Post
    Or else they can stay where they are, play for whoever they want to play for, and then make their permanent decision when they're called up for a competitive senior international.

    Do you really expect FIFA to tear up the statute books just because Northern Ireland are driving Catholic players away from their national team?
    Why not make their decision as soon as their "boyhood dream" dawns on them?

    I accept the FIFA Statutes - I thought "Catholic" players (don't know why you brought that up!) were choosing to play for the South because it was their "boyhood dream" to do so?

    I haven't heard any player making the switch declare that they did so because they were "drove out" by the IFA on account of their religion - I know Duffy mumbled something about being a "Catholic" - but not that he was drove out. Have you?
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    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    McLeans name hasnt been mentioned on this page until now. There is an eligibility thread for this rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Why not make their decision as soon as their "boyhood dream" dawns on them?
    Firstly, this is one player said it was his "boyhood dream". Secondly, a 14 or 15 year old child shouldn't be forced into making a decision on who to play for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    I haven't heard any player making the switch declare that they did so because they were "drove out" by the IFA on account of their religion - I know Duffy mumbled something about being a "Catholic" - but not that he was drove out. Have you?
    Look, there is obviously a serious problem in the Northern Ireland setup. If it was the odd player declaring for the Republic, you could put it down to him being a Republican. As it stands, it's tens of players now at this stage. All these players cannot possibly be "provo supporters", or whatever you want to call them.

    Is there anyone in the IFA who is asking the question as to why this happening? Is anything being actively considered to try and keep Catholic players in the fold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    McLeans name hasnt been mentioned on this page until now. There is an eligibility thread for this rubbish.
    And McClean's name hasn't been mentioned until now either...
    Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    McLeans name hasnt been mentioned on this page until now. There is an eligibility thread for this rubbish.
    Who the hell wants to talk about McLean? This thread is about training camps in Stormont

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    I think we might need to set aside a couple of pages to debate the spelling of his name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrigaline View Post
    Firstly, this is one player said it was his "boyhood dream". Secondly, a 14 or 15 year old child shouldn't be forced into making a decision on who to play for.
    Look, there is obviously a serious problem in the Northern Ireland setup. If it was the odd player declaring for the Republic, you could put it down to him being a Republican. As it stands, it's tens of players now at this stage. All these players cannot possibly be "provo supporters", or whatever you want to call them.

    Is there anyone in the IFA who is asking the question as to why this happening? Is anything being actively considered to try and keep Catholic players in the fold?
    McClean's the only one, is he?

    Perhaps you should check out the comments of other "switchers" upon their switch.

    What do you think the "serious problems" are in the Northern Ireland set up that is causing McClean et al to switch?

    I believe those switching are doing so because they want to - their preference is to play for the South. Do you disagree? Do you think their real preference is to play for Northern Ireland, but they are being "drove out", and are having to go to their second choice ie. the South?

    I understand there are window dressing measures being taken by the IFA to try and address the switching issue - enter Gerry Armstrong and his merry band of child minders.

    Personally, I'd like to encourage players whose "boyhood dream" it is to play for the South, to do so at the earliest opportunity.

    By the way, we're not talking about 14 and 15 year old kids - that's a whole different ballgame.

    PS. I genuinely don't give a fiddlers where a player puts his X on a ballot paper, or says his prayers - however, I want to see players whose "boyhood dream" is to play for Northern Ireland forming the cornerstone of Northern Ireland representative sides. Players with real pride in the shirt they've been honoured with.
    Last edited by Not Brazil; 09/08/2011 at 6:30 PM.
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    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    I think we might need to set aside a couple of pages to debate the spelling of his name.
    My mate, the bhoy from Ardee, introduced the matter of a Mr Brian McLean into the discussion earlier - hence some confusion.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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