How depressing is the seeding news?

**Crosby87** · 29/09/2009, 11:51 AM

So now that we know we will face a top club, like Germany, Croatia or France or the like, what are the chances we qualify? And how is it determined who plays home first?
Are the players going to be so up for it that the gap can be closed for two games? Or if we played Germany would they be intimidated and likely to not play their best?

**DeLorean** · 29/09/2009, 11:53 AM

We have to finish 2nd before we can even think about beating a top "club"

**zenokelly** · 29/09/2009, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

So now that we know we will face a top club, like Germany, Croatia or France or the like, what are the chances we qualify? And how is it determined who plays home first?
Are the players going to be so up for it that the gap can be closed for two games? Or if we played Germany would they be intimidated and likely to not play their best?

Any links to this depressing news?

**seanfhear** · 29/09/2009, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

So now that we know we will face a top club, like Germany, Croatia or France or the like, what are the chances we qualify? And how is it determined who plays home first?
Are the players going to be so up for it that the gap can be closed for two games? Or if we played Germany would they be intimidated and likely to not play their best?

Is there any chance that we could get United for a glamour tie

**tetsujin1979** · 29/09/2009, 12:41 PM

no details of the draw have been announced, there's only one story on eleven-a-side.com that even mentions it

Can we get the thread locked until there is something official?

**Uncle_Joe** · 29/09/2009, 1:14 PM

All that has happened is that uefa have decided to implement their coefficient system for uefa 2012.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...3_DOWNLOAD.pdf
thats the only official document i can find about the coefficient.

Seeding is based on
2010 world cup qualifiers (40%),
2008 Euro qualifier & tournament (40%)
2006 world Cup Qualifiers & tournament (20%),

Basically results for 2010 & 2008 are worth twice that of 2006 results

Now If anyone has a calculator and a spare weekend they can work out what pot we will be in.

**tricky_colour** · 29/09/2009, 2:12 PM

I can donate an online calcualtor

**stevieontour** · 29/09/2009, 2:29 PM

How can a competition get this far and only now we find this out??

This is sick.

**seanfhear** · 29/09/2009, 2:53 PM

Originally Posted by stevieontour

How can a competition get this far and only now we find this out??

This is sick.

Are Fianna Fáil running FIFA.

**geysir** · 29/09/2009, 2:57 PM

Where exactly can the source of alleged seeding news be found?

**Colbert Report** · 29/09/2009, 3:04 PM

I'd like to know the source as well. Not that I don't trust elevenaside.com, but I can't find it on soccernet or skysports.

**Stuttgart88** · 29/09/2009, 3:06 PM

I think Tets posted that a guy was on newstalk saying that it'd be seeded. So rather than crosby responding along the lines of "that'd be depressing if true" he starts a new thread getting people all alarmed.

We all know it won't be seeded but that the big teams will be drawn against the small teams.

Luckily for FIFA there are probably only 3 teams they'll need to keep apart making it far easier to disguise it when the draw is fixed. I doubt they'll be so crass as to make sure they all get drawn away first.

**Schumi** · 29/09/2009, 3:07 PM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

So now that we know we will face a top club, like Germany, Croatia or France or the like,

Bayern or Bordeaux would be tough but I think we'd have a good chance against Dynamo Zagreb.

No link to this news that I can find anyway.

**tiktok** · 29/09/2009, 3:09 PM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Are Fianna Fáil running FIFA.

Where did you think FIannaFAil got the name?
Disappointing that they seem to be pulling it out of the hats now in an attempt to get Platini's team a soft draw!

**carloz** · 29/09/2009, 3:11 PM

Originally Posted by stevieontour

How can a competition get this far and only now we find this out??

This is sick.

Thats what angers me so much. if FIFA announced this before the qualifiers then it would be fine, but doing it now is so so wrong. An obvious and callous attempt to assiste Germany, France or Russia. As i said, if this was mentioned at the start of the qualifiers i would have been for it, as for example, a team in second that finished on 22 points deserve to play another second team that finished on about 15 points. But it grossly unfair bringing it in little over a month before the playoffs. It surprises me in no way though, it is FIFA after all

**Drumcondra 69er** · 29/09/2009, 3:46 PM

Lads, waity until there's an official announcement, there's nothing anywhere yet online bar elevenaside so let's not jump the gun.

**Drumcondra 69er** · 29/09/2009, 3:47 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I think Tets posted that a guy was on newstalk saying that it'd be seeded. So rather than crosby responding along the lines of "that'd be depressing if true" he starts a new thread getting people all alarmed.

We all know it won't be seeded but that the big teams will be drawn against the small teams.

Luckily for FIFA there are probably only 3 teams they'll need to keep apart making it far easier to disguise it when the draw is fixed. I doubt they'll be so crass as to make sure they all get drawn away first.

Didn't stop UEFA in 1999.....

**DeLorean** · 29/09/2009, 4:00 PM

For the 2006 WC they seeded the playoffs. The seeding was based on the FIFA World Rankings from September 2005, ie. the start of the qualification process. This wouldn't serve us too well I'd imagine.

**Uncle_Joe** · 29/09/2009, 4:11 PM

This confirms that the teams are seeded according to the UEFA national team rankings. Posted on Uefa on 20th Sept 2010

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/eur...id=887067.html

and here is how Uefa ranks teams.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...3_DOWNLOAD.pdf

they brought this in on May 2008, so 2012 would be the first tournament that this has been used.