FAI Investigate Alleged Racist Abuse Of Zayed

**SwanVsDalton** · 07/07/2011, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

I was just wondering if conclusions could be drawn from a (rumoured) decision to hold back an announcement on already-existing findings (if we were to assume the rumour true, of course). Is there a certain decision that might potentially cause more trouble than another and what trouble was expected anyway?

Damn straight DI, this thread's been quiet way too long...

**SkStu** · 07/07/2011, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

I was just wondering if conclusions could be drawn from a (rumoured) decision to hold back an announcement on already-existing findings (if we were to assume the rumour true, of course). Is there a certain decision that might potentially cause more trouble than another and what trouble was expected anyway?

oh my god, you've gone and got me really hypothetically worried now...

**Aaron** · 07/07/2011, 3:29 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Presumably the player involved will be there though

Will be interesting to see if he's in the 18 man squad

**hoopy** · 07/07/2011, 5:31 PM

Remember now, if a Rovers player tells Zayed tomorrow to 'get up you diving c***' it's not racist!

**DannyInvincible** · 07/07/2011, 6:32 PM

Just so long as those censored letters aren't "oon".

**Aaron** · 09/07/2011, 11:01 AM

Just on Radio Foyle Chris Turner is banned for 3 matches for Racist Comments

**outspoken** · 09/07/2011, 11:48 AM

3 matches? is that enough - what ye think?

**Aaron** · 09/07/2011, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by outspoken

3 matches? is that enough - what ye think?

IMO it isnt, should have been 5 like Jason McGuinness. Though he will have to live with the shame now

**bluewhitearmy** · 09/07/2011, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

IMO it isnt, should have been 5 like Jason McGuinness. Though he will have to live with the shame now

Do you really think he will even care?

**Aaron** · 09/07/2011, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy

Do you really think he will even care?

He may not, but at least everyone knows he's a racist

**osarusan** · 09/07/2011, 12:12 PM

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/...rc_zayede.html

Shamrock Rovers midfield Chris Turner has been banned for three matches after an investigation into comments made against Derry City's Eamon Zayed.

Turner has been sanctioned for 'offensive behaviour' and will miss the next three Hoops matches.

Rovers have been cleared of an allegation regarding their fans as according to the FAI's Independent Disciplinary Committee 'there was no corroborative evidence in relation to the complaint'.

'Offensive behaviour'. What does that mean? Either what was said (which nobody seems to know) is racist or it isn't. What exactly is 'offensive behaviour' and where is the punishment for it outlined?

St Patrick's Athletic have been sanctioned for racist comments made by a small number of their supporters.

They have been hit with a €200 fine. The Independent Committee commended the actions of St Patrick's Athletic management for dealing with the issue in a 'very proactive manner'.

What does 'offensive behaviour' mean? Whatever was said ( which nobody seems to be sure of) either is racist or it isn't. Does the FAI have a rule for 'offensive behaviour'?

EDIT: Rule 88

RULE 88. OFFENSIVE BEHAVIOUR
Any Participant who insults someone in any way, especially by using offensive gestures or language, may be sanctioned with a suspension and/or fine and/or a ban on performing any football related activity.

**DannyInvincible** · 09/07/2011, 12:17 PM

So, it appears SkStu's rumour was correct? If Turner was found guilty before the game, was it right to hold off his penalty over "trouble concerns" and actually allow him to play, never mind play against the club/player against whom he committed the offence.

**HulaHoop** · 09/07/2011, 12:41 PM

Just to clarify Turner was not found guilty of racism i.e the comment he made to Zayed was found to be offensive not racist.

SRFC fans found not guilty.
Pats fans found guilty of racist abuse.

**Hibs4Ever** · 09/07/2011, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by HulaHoop

Just to clarify Turner was not found guilty of racism i.e the comment he made to Zayed was found to be offensive not racist..

Racist investigation, Turner has been found guilty. End of

Originally Posted by HulaHoop

SRFC fans found not guilty.
Pats fans found guilty of racist abuse.

SRFC not guilty because like the monkey chanting, the club refused to co-operate with FAI investigation.

ONE St Pats fan found guilty after coming forward to club the day after the match. Fine only 200 (and club commended by FAI) because of complete co-operation

**Boots9** · 09/07/2011, 12:51 PM

Can't believe Zayed actually got away with the biggest lie in Irish football

**horton** · 09/07/2011, 12:53 PM

Well if any one of the alleged things Turner said to him are true, the guys a bigot.

**HulaHoop** · 09/07/2011, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Racist investigation, Turner has been found guilty. End of

No it isn't end of. No matter how much you want it to be true the fact remains the comment made by Turner to Zayed has been deemed offensive rather than racist. If it was deemed racist Turner would have been banned for 5 matches like McGuinness and the FAI would have used the "racist" rather than "offensive" in their statement.

Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

SRFC not guilty because like the monkey chanting, the club refused to co-operate with FAI investigation.

ONE St Pats fan found guilty after coming forward to club the day after the match. Fine only 200 (and club commended by FAI) because of complete co-operation

Rovers co-operated with both investigations as we have nothing to hide.

**hoopy** · 09/07/2011, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/...rc_zayede.html

What does 'offensive behaviour' mean? Whatever was said ( which nobody seems to be sure of) either is racist or it isn't. Does the FAI have a rule for 'offensive behaviour'?

It means his comments WEREN'T racist. I'm sure it puts a lot of people out on this forum and elsewhere but there you go.

**HulaHoop** · 09/07/2011, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by horton

Well if any one of the alleged things Turner said to him are true, the guys a bigot.

Like the people calling Turner an orange ******* in the Brandywell last night?

**Ezeikial** · 09/07/2011, 1:03 PM

Originally Posted by horton

Well if any one of the alleged things Turner said to him are true, the guys a bigot.

Nothing new here

Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy

Do you really think he will even care?

As long as he does not incur a fine or is docked any wages, it will hardly bother him too much.

Particularly if the Shamrock Rovers club and supporters rally round him as a "victim" of injustice