Stephen Kenny

[Diggs246]

Who could we get with the amount of money the FAI have to offer ?

I think its worth noting that countries like Sweden rarely pay their senior team manager more then 200k
They are then in receipt of a bonus on qualification

[Diggs246]

Sorry the Swedish guy is on 500k my mistake
But still less then Stephen

[paul_oshea]

I also thought he was very poor to be honest, first half he was awful.

Decent set piece delivery is the absolute minimum you expect from and him and fair enough he handled the penalty well and converted coolly. However in general play he can, and in my opinion, was, one of our poorest players.

Ya but we have a lot of players like that, back when a player needed a 2 point skillset we now have players with a 5 point skillset, sadly most of our players have about 1-2 and don't always deliver on those per game either. I thought he was ok, I think people expect more because of robbie 2016

[ifk101]

This is what I'm talking about, he knows the limitations of Hourihane his complete lack of ability to play that role, or at least he should, so we had to make a defensive minded change considering we were taking off a defensive midfielder. We were 2-0 up at home against the 92nd ranked team and a blind man and his monkey know we need to find alternatives, Collins was playing much further forward than he should have been anyway, we'd have kept a defensive minded midfielder in the holding role and we need to try out alternatives for that position that was a very appropriate time to try it out.

There might be other better alternatives but Collins can't have done any worse than hourihane and I dont think anyone would have had issues with that trying, in fact I'd say many of us would be discussing the out of left field change from Kenny in trying it out.

We were 1-0 up when Hourihane came on. We were coasting, in full control, but playing in the knowledge we could not lose and Armenia needed to win. Not the time to start experimenting and a blind man and his monkey would tell you that.

[osarusan]

Who could we get with the amount of money the FAI have to offer ?

For the €540,000 Kenny gets, perhaps we could tempt Hughton away from role as technical advisor to the Ghana national team.

[seanfhear]

For the €540,000 Kenny gets, perhaps we could tempt Hughton away from role as technical advisor to the Ghana national team.

Michael O’Neill, Maybe ~ ~ Did very well with Northern Ireland after a shaky start.

[pineapple stu]

Jaysus seanfhear - we're only over the Troubles and you want to start them all over again?!

[Jd2793]

For the €540,000 Kenny gets, perhaps we could tempt Hughton away from role as technical advisor to the Ghana national team.

hughton is finished as a manager

[osarusan]

hughton is finished as a manager

He'd be a massive improvement on Kenny.

[ifk101]

He'd be a massive improvement on Kenny.

Motivate that.

[CraftyToePoke]

For the €540,000 Kenny gets, perhaps we could tempt Hughton away from role as technical advisor to the Ghana national team.

What is Paul Cook at these days ?

[jbyrne]

I genuinely thought Brady was rubbish last night.. he has no pace, and maybe I missed his brilliant crosses or something but nothing he did stood out for me, bar him grabbing the ball for the penalty

Some might call that being brave, but when I seen it, it just smacked once again of him being "my ball Brady"

He wants to take every free, every corner, every throw..

He slows down play, takes too many touches and just frustrates the life out of me.. gimme the raw honesty of Mc Clean over him any day

bradys opta stats from tuesday...

Brady?s stat line (per Opta) from Tuesday night: seven accurate crosses, six chances created, three accurate long balls, one assist and, of course, the winning goal from the penalty spot.

[seanfhear]

Jaysus seanfhear - we're only over the Troubles and you want to start them all over again?!

Better persuade Michael O’Nell now before the North come calling for him again soon.

[weldoninhio]

For the ?540,000 Kenny gets, perhaps we could tempt Hughton away from role as technical advisor to the Ghana national team.

There?s a few about. Hughton, Dyche, Carsley, maybe Anthony Barry would want the chance to manage, he created a huge upturn in the team when he was brought in.

[tetsujin1979]

bradys opta stats from tuesday...

Brady?s stat line (per Opta) from Tuesday night: seven accurate crosses, six chances created, three accurate long balls, one assist and, of course, the winning goal from the penalty spot.

Posted the stats on Twitter after the game on Tuesday night

[jbyrne]

There?s a few about. Hughton, Dyche, Carsley, maybe Anthony Barry would want the chance to manage, he created a huge upturn in the team when he was brought in.

just another list of potential managers to blame when peoples, often unrealistic, expectations are not met.
when was the last manager to get things right for us? it must be Jack in reality

[paul_oshea]

Why is that only acceptable now though? Because its Stephen Kenny? Why are those desperate like an addict to his last fix, using this argument as a reason to defend kenny but were yet happy to use it as an argument against other managers for not getting the best out of what is/was available?

Kenny, like the last few managers gone before him suffers from player malaise - an inconsistent calibre of player and a player who is inconsistent. But it's never been an excuse before.

Knight is a great example, he was poor against Scotland and average against Armenia, was always on the periphery but against luxembourg he was good ( i havent see anything to merit the excitement others feel about it). And so many managers to come before had their own incarnations of this.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

just another list of potential managers to blame when peoples, often unrealistic, expectations are not met.
when was the last manager to get things right for us? it must be Jack in reality

People won't admit it but Kenny's reign has painted McCarthy's second term in a new light. Played 10, won 5, drew 4 and lost 1 in a difficult group is not bad at all. There were some poor performances though. The O'Neill reign was going very well up to a certain point. Getting to and playing well at Euro 16 is often overlooked along with some great performances and results. Same with Trappatoni, we had some good times but also some very low points. Staunton and Kerr disappointed overall, McCarthy in his first spell certainly got a lot of praise until the end.

All the managers post Jack have at least made us competitive, that's apart from Staunton and Kenny. I don't think it's unrealistic to expect us to compete for qualification. Staunton obviously had to go, same with Kenny now. As for finding a replacement. Brendan Rodgers might be available soon. Might be tricky budget wise but he's a proud Irishman. Losing Anthony Barry was as predicted a huge loss, he could be tempted back with the top job offer. We may need to look outside the box in a search, Celtic for example seem to have found someone decent without looking within familiar circles. One thing's for sure, finding a quality replacement is vital to repair the damage caused by Kenny.

[osarusan]

just another list of potential managers to blame when peoples, often unrealistic, expectations are not met.

There's nothing unrealistic about expecting to routinely beat teams like Luxembourg, Azerbaijan, and Qatar.

[jbyrne]

McCarthy in his first spell certainly got a lot of praise until the end.

not really true to be honest. it wasn't until we looked set to qualify for wc 02 did he get the media off his back.
the 02 qualification campaign was marked in criticism of many performances including cyprus and andorra away. even the 2-2 holland away drew criticisms.
and despite a very good wc finals showing it didn't take long for the knives to come out when the euro 04 campaign didn't start well