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Again, how do you know this? Betfair would not know his occupation.
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Obviously. Common knowledge at this stage.
How do we know this?
How do we know this?
Ive never said otherwise.
Sure, it may be naive but if there is more to it than that, then it will come out. Otherwise youre just speculating.
What really is madness is the thought that Morrow, Dempsey and McGlynn were the only players to have bet on LOI football.
From today's Irish Daily Mail
McGlynn was identified, along with a third person also with Derry City at the time but not a player, because they used the same computer to place bets as shamed serial gambler Sammy Morrow, who left Derry at the end of last season.
Betfair, who passed on information to the FAI about Morrow's extensive gambling, spotted that the same internet provider address was being used by McGlynn.
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McGlynn must know or have been told that Betfair would have an account history of all his bets. All the FAI have to do is get a copy of this & go through it to see what he backed. Admitting he backed 4 games is not madness when it's so easy to prove/disprove.
So betfair reported him because it's the same IP address not because of betting patterns.
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im absolutely NOT making that argument. It is quite clear that McGlynn broke the law of the game. Im trying to put his offence into perspective compared to Morrows or Dempseys as to why a similar ban/fine to Dempseys might be more approriate than Morrows (based on what he has said).
Me neither.
Whoa there fellah. Thats a massive, massive difference from
andBetfair were concerned about Mcglynn's betting pattern
toWell by reporting him to the FAI i would call that pretty concerned.
Thats simply that the FAI asked for info on Morrow, and part of that info was that another user was using the same IP address.
No need to get ahead of yourself as regards what McGlynn has or hasn't done
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I don't think there is a difference. No matter what the reason, Betfair reported McGlynn to the FAI, therefore they were concerned.
I'm not getting ahead of myself with anything. I simply stated the facts as they have come out.
While I have no proof as to how much more McGlynn did or didn't do, I think the facts suggest that there is a fair possibility that there might be more to this, and this isn't simply about throwing 50 quid on Kildare to win.
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But there not the facts, are they? They were not concerned about McGlynn until they investigated Morrow, and they didn't report him to the FAI. The provided more info on Morrow's case. Some of which lead to McGlynn.
McGlynn has stated he made 4 bets using betfair. Every transaction is traceable. Why would he announce the 4 9and mention that it could be checked on betfair) if those checks would throw up more.
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They are facts Dodge. It doesn't matter when Betfair/ FAI became concerned, you have to become concerned at some point. There was a time they weren't concerned about Morrow.
Betfair did report McGlynn to the FAI.
Betfair is not the only betting facility in Ireland, I would not rule out the possibility that he may of placed a bet somewhere else.
As for someone connected with Derry City last year coming out and releasing a false statement.. I have no idea why he may do that, but it was hardly uncommon last year. I assume I don't need a link to back this up.
And on that note, as someone said last year, "The truth will out".
Dodge, a lot of **** when on in Derry last year, stuff was down by Directors, Players and Backroom staff, a lot hasn't come out yet. But this is not about throwing twenty notes on Bray to lose a game, and it should be becoming pretty clear at this point.
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As dodge points out, why would he lie about his betting when it's so easily traced. It's simple enough to ask betfair for an account history.
He claims he backed other teams as he assumed (like I and many others) that this wasn't against the rules. Anything else you claim is bulls*it & wild exagerations you cannot possibly know are true or not.
A suspension & fine along the lines of what Dempsey got would seem the most likely outcome.
All that's missing from your post is:
Why did this guy lie? People lie, get over it.
Also please, Betfair is not the only place in this country where McGlynn would of been able to place another bet. His mate Morrow only today is still claiming that he didnt bet against Derry despite the bet been placed on his account. Where do we draw the line at believing this bull***t from them?
I know what i know, and it will come out, in the mean time if we are playing the picture game
I think this is my last post on the matter, you clearly believe every word of the statement and nothing I will say will change it. I just hope u never get taked for a fool by the players that you support.
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And the total irony of all this is Derry are installing an interactive scoreboard to show highlights etc... sponsored by BOYLESPORTS who have bought 1 hours advertising per game to give in-match betting odds allowing fans to text in bets. Should be in place for Athlone game tomorrow - easy 3 points for them then as the Derry team take to pitch with mobiles in hand Nobody can accuse Boylesports of not identifying a good business market anyway.
I presume betting on games in the same league you play in is not allowed in other jurisdications either?
And they didn't report him to the FAI, as they wouldn't have know what he did (just like they don't know what I do...)
Betfair have an agreement with the FAI about exchanging info, and one of the parts is that if the FAI ask for info on certain matters, betfair provide them with it. Clearly they asked for info on Morrow, and as part of the info they said something along the lines of "he made this bet @ this time from this IP address...." "This IP address was also used by username xxxx to bet on this event at this time..."
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Who is the QPR legend that was infamous for gambling - my mind is mushy..............................
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