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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Im prety sure it was to do with structural issues ie foundations subsiding as a resuld of sodden ground from the Tolka bursting its banks.
    Subsiding foundations and they let teams in to get changed etc with probably 100 tonnes of concrete above the changing rooms??

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    It could have been sufficiently stable for that use but not a few hundred fans jumping up and down on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    It could have been sufficiently stable for that use but not a few hundred fans jumping up and down on it.
    What building regulations were followed during that build!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    What building regulations were followed during that build!
    Whatever the problem is (I've heard it is the roof) probably wasn't helped by the flooding the ground suffered a few times since the stand was built

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    If it was just the roof then the roof could be removed and youve added additional seats to the ground, there is also under stand facilities eg tv studio/corporate area/toilets albeit small and as good a view as you'll get from behind a goal. Not to be wasted if at all possible. But yes repeted flooding was what caused the initial issues. Foundations needed to be deeper and broader, oversized for the size of the stand to resist any ground movement due to the Tolka. That or flood defences around the preimeter of the Tolka Park land parcel if it hasnt been done already. If it hasnt then any ground improvements, especially the pitch, is alwways at risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    That or flood defences around the preimeter of the Tolka Park land parcel if it hasnt been done already. If it hasnt then any ground improvements, especially the pitch, is alwways at risk.
    They might not get permission to erect flood barriers. Afaik, when Institute FC's ground at Drumahoe flooded in 2017, they considered that but the Council wouldn't approve it, since it would only move the floodwaters further along to more residential areas and increase their risk.

    As it happens, the flooding also brought in Japanese Knotweed onto the site, which was the last straw (no pun intended), meaning that the club had to move out permanently. (Currently sharing with DCFC at The Brandywell, while they build a new stadium of their own).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers...dium,_Drumahoe

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    Tolka Park as a designated flood plain? Would surely banjax applications for funding. Knotweed....just torch the place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Knotweed....just torch the place!
    If only it was that easy to deal with, then it wouldn't be the massive issue it is in reality.

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    Ok torch the place, dig about 10ft down over the entire site and bury the rubble in some landfill, concrete it over and turn it in to a car park!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Ok torch the place, dig about 10ft down over the entire site and bury the rubble in some landfill, concrete it over and turn it in to a car park!
    "Tell me you don't understand Japanese Knotweed without telling me....."

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    Knotweed, yeesh, that's unfortunate. There are experts in dealing with weeds of every description who will refuse to even approach that stuff for fear of spreading spores. The Guardian had a good write up on the problems last year: https://www.theguardian.com/environm...anese-knotweed
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    "Tell me you don't understand Japanese Knotweed without telling me....."
    Well it works for zombies But nope gardening and horticulture isnt a forté, unless the stuff is mate from plastic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Well it works for zombies But nope gardening and horticulture isnt a forté, unless the stuff is mate from plastic!
    We'd never have guessed

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    Well if Shels wanted out of their agreement with DCC on Tolka, 'finding' knotweed would be a new angle.

    Youve just scared me in to selling my house just in case of a zombie knotweed invasion.....

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    Finn Park to be sold for €1.5m to help meet the funding needed for the new stadium. Hopefully this sees them over the line and they don’t get stuck in no man’s land without Finn Park or the new ground although I’d imagine that could be a condition of the sale anyways

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    Unfortunate echoes of the Tralee Racecourse saga from circa 2008 - it was sold in the hope of a fresh site development, with Kerry GAA planning a new stadium on the site, but with the crash, all plans were halted, but Tralee's meetings were lost to Listowel and Killarney - so the Harps board would want cast-iron legal guarantees that the sale could only be completed once Stranolar becomes playable!

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    Construction won't begin until the money is in place

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    Is this not similar to the original plan? The sale of Finn Park to a developer would finance a proportion of the new ground - the bottom fell out of the economy and Finn Park fell in value? Now if the developer signed an agreement shouldnt that have been his loss rather than hand back the keys due to a 'negative equity' like situation?? A turnkey agreement should factor in, sale made but handover of the asset waits until a replacement facility is usable (not complete). Is the same developer involved on any level? Recieved money for land or anyting?

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    More details are available here.

    Finn Park cannot be sold until the new ground is completed and the ownership through Finn Harps Trustees is transferred to the new ground. It's also not a guarantee that Finn Park will need to be sold at all.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99;2184850[B
    ]Is this not similar to the original plan? The sale of Finn Park to a developer would finance a proportion of the new ground - the bottom fell out of the economy and Finn Park fell in value?[/B] Now if the developer signed an agreement shouldnt that have been his loss rather than hand back the keys due to a 'negative equity' like situation?? A turnkey agreement should factor in, sale made but handover of the asset waits until a replacement facility is usable (not complete). Is the same developer involved on any level? Recieved money for land or anyting?
    Yeah it was and I find it odd so many Harps fans giving out about the sale of current Finn Park as if its something that has be suddenly spring from nowhere .

    Way back in the dark ages when the plan of a new Harps stadium was originally mooted there had been several supermarket chains looking at locations in the town and it was thought there would be plenty of interest in the Navenny street site. But we now have Supervalu, LIDL, ALDI and Costcutter aswell as a few local family own supermarkets so probably not enough businmess inthe local area for another.

    The last few years there has been talk of keeping the current Finn Park for youth games and the general plan I think was for it to be the home of a senito ladies team with the club planning to enter the senior women's setup somewhere down the line, and think many Harps fans can't look beyond that now
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