Richard Keogh

**geysir** · 01/10/2019, 8:57 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Was it keoghs vehicle though? I'm assuming its not, but if it is then letting someone else drive it who is under the influence is the same as you driving it.

I think they can justifiably sack him given he is club captain. There be some clause of extreme action resulting in evacuandam contractus. But it looks at this stage they are not going to do that. And Richard can count himself a very lucky boy. Perhaps they will look to terminate his contract and pay him off, x amounts of months.

They can justifiably sack him given he is club captain?? You are confused Paul, this ain't the army. It's a football club where the club captain does not have extra contractual burdens, if the club captain does not meet the standards of being club captain, then the role is given to somebody else.

**tetsujin1979** · 01/10/2019, 9:58 PM

Pretty sure if they do sack him, without any criminal charges being applied, they'll be sued for wrongful dismissal.

**Fixer82** · 02/10/2019, 10:48 AM

If I was on the board of Derby County I’d be sending Keogh on a drink awareness course and then offering him a player/coach role when he returns.

Good PR for the club and protecting the player as well. He strikes me as someone who’d be a good defensive coach in the future and is obviously popular around the place.

**seanfhear** · 02/10/2019, 1:16 PM

Originally Posted by Fixer82

If I was on the board of Derby County I’d be sending Keogh on a drink awareness course and then offering him a player/coach role when he returns.

Good PR for the club and protecting the player as well. He strikes me as someone who’d be a good defensive coach in the future and is obviously popular around the place.

Perhaps a bit too social with the younger players !

**tricky_colour** · 02/10/2019, 2:23 PM

Originally Posted by brine3

Considering Keogh wasn't the one driving, they have nothing on him anyway.

If an employer tries to sack somebody for being injured as a passenger in a car, the lawyers will have a field day.

I suspect he may have been unconscious through drink at the time!

Which is kind of double edged sword responsibility wise.

**tommy_c12000** · 02/10/2019, 8:34 PM

Interestingly, Lawrence starts and Bennett on the bench today for Derby. No chance they can justify trying to scrap Keoghs contract now. They will just allow it run out in summer Id imagine, Keogh may pick up another club next year you’d never know

**osarusan** · 02/10/2019, 9:01 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Pretty sure if they do sack him, without any criminal charges being applied, they'll be sued for wrongful dismissal.

I wouldn't be sure about that at all. Why would criminal charges be a necessity?

His contract will almost certainly have a clause about not engaging in behaviour that would tarnish the club's image, and, depending on the wording of that clause, it's not hard to imagine Derby deciding he has done that.

**Razors left peg** · 02/10/2019, 9:16 PM

They obviously dont care if they are playing the other 2 guys tonight. That is actually disgraceful and shows that money over rules everything!

**seanfhear** · 02/10/2019, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

They obviously dont care if they are playing the other 2 guys tonight. That is actually disgraceful and shows that money over rules everything!

Football at these levels is hypocrisy personified .

**NeverFeltBetter** · 15/10/2019, 1:56 PM

Driving ban for two years, 180 hours "unpaid work" for the two: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...driving-crash/

**centre mid** · 30/10/2019, 7:23 PM

Sacked by Derby. Bit harsh but suppose he was club captain.

**paul_oshea** · 30/10/2019, 7:39 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

They can justifiably sack him given he is club captain?? You are confused Paul, this ain't the army. It's a football club where the club captain does not have extra contractual burdens, if the club captain does not meet the standards of being club captain, then the role is given to somebody else.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...drive-incident

**paul_oshea** · 30/10/2019, 7:40 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

They can justifiably sack him given he is club captain?? You are confused Paul, this ain't the army. It's a football club where the club captain does not have extra contractual burdens, if the club captain does not meet the standards of being club captain, then the role is given to somebody else.

Originally Posted by centre mid

Sacked by Derby. Bit harsh but suppose he was club captain.

Ya was always going to be made the scapegoat given he was club captain and his time out.

**paul_oshea** · 30/10/2019, 7:42 PM

What a load of sh1te

"As we have said from the outset, the club will not tolerate any of its players or staff behaving in a manner which puts themselves, their colleagues, and members of the general public at risk of injury or worse, or which brings the club into disrepute."

All sounds like a pay off thing they are trying to sort out and come to an agreement

**SkStu** · 30/10/2019, 8:17 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Ya was always going to be made the scapegoat given he was club captain and his time out.

You were dead right from the start, Paul. First one to call it. Maith an buachaill.

**Fizzer** · 30/10/2019, 8:27 PM

This is dreadful treatment from Derby. I expect it’s just a stunt as Paul says, as a preamble to negotiations. I would think that Keogh could rely on estoppel based on the clubs’ previous statement re ‘integration’ back into the squad to claim specific performance of his contract. I hope he’s been advised completely independently of the clubs’ solicitors throughout this. Derbys’ behaviour since this occurred has been shameful.

**shakermaker1982** · 30/10/2019, 8:41 PM

If he was in his mid-20’s this would not happen. As Roy Keane has always said, players are just pieces of meat and can easily be discarded once their usefulness has come to an end. Ruthless game.....and the two lads who actually committed a crime can carry on playing for the club?!

**CraftyToePoke** · 30/10/2019, 8:44 PM

Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

If he was in his mid-20’s this would not happen. As Roy Keane has always said, players are just pieces of meat and can easily be discarded once their usefulness has come to an end. Ruthless game.....and the two lads who actually committed a crime can carry on playing for the club?!

That's the head shaker in it all yes. Poor aul RK only fell asleep in a motor ****ed up after all. 34 is clearly a bad age to do that.

**seanfhear** · 30/10/2019, 8:55 PM

if Keogh was an Irish TD , I am sure he would be suing the Driver of the Car for Compensation . Contact Fine Gael headquarters Richard .

**gastric** · 31/10/2019, 1:46 AM

Originally Posted by Fizzer

This is dreadful treatment from Derby. I expect it’s just a stunt as Paul says, as a preamble to negotiations. I would think that Keogh could rely on estoppel based on the clubs’ previous statement re ‘integration’ back into the squad to claim specific performance of his contract. I hope he’s been advised completely independently of the clubs’ solicitors throughout this. Derbys’ behaviour since this occurred has been shameful.

I think you are on the money. If it went to court, I am sure on the basis the real culprits are still there and playing, Keogh would win. Just as an aside, Keogh has never learnt to drive which is quite odd and has always relied on team mates to get around. Not anymore!