What's up with Derry TV?

**dortie** · 01/09/2008, 9:42 AM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

You've already demonstrated, thanks... cant, hypocrisy, self-righteousnes and and a lot of drums... hasn't changed a lot, although now we can tune in to TG4/Derry TV if we want more.
Interesting that you consider that you retain your consumer rights above those in Bray etc. in respect of our unworthy Free State television courtesy of Rupert Murdoch and, as you put it, the Great British Pound.

Not into drums myself, actually despise them whether they belong to Loyalists or Derry fans.

TG4/Derry TV...get over it.

In regards to retaining my consumer rights above those in Bray. Unfortunately i have no other option due to my geographical position. Lets not go into that one.

**Dodge** · 01/09/2008, 9:44 AM

Seriously lads, relax on the political stuff.

**BohDiddley** · 01/09/2008, 11:08 AM

Happy to leave out the politics. But I would like to see a reasoned justification for the disproportionate coverage of Derry City on TG4.

**boovidge** · 01/09/2008, 11:22 AM

The way TG4 translates the club names really annoys me for some reason. I don't mind the commentary being in Irish, just good to see the league getting some coverage

**JC_GUFC** · 01/09/2008, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Happy to leave out the politics. But I would like to see a reasoned justification for the disproportionate coverage of Derry City on TG4.

How about looking at the fixture list and finding more competitive games?
I'd be pretty sure that they decided to show the Cork v Derry league game before Cork had the points deducted and so like the Derry v Drogheda game it was a big game with regards European qualification.
The 2 cup games they've chosen are clearly the best ones.

**Dodge** · 01/09/2008, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Happy to leave out the politics. But I would like to see a reasoned justification for the disproportionate coverage of Derry City on TG4.

If we're talking league games, they've been on (or are scheduled to be on) TG4 3 times. 1 more than Bohs. Hardly something of ridiculous proportions

The Cup tie is obviously the tie of the round and is rightly being covered

**brendy_�ire** · 01/09/2008, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

I would like to see a reasoned justification for the disproportionate coverage of Derry City on TG4.

Which match(es) do you think should not be shown? Which should be dropped to make the coverage proportionate?

**Dodge** · 01/09/2008, 12:26 PM

Oh and for the record here's a breakdown on Club's appearance on TG4 in the league and cup (played and announced)

Derry City 4
Cork City 3
Bray Wanderers 2
Bohemians 2
Drogheda United 2
Shamrock Rovers 2
Galway United 2
Sligo Rovers 2
Cobh Ramblers 1
Finn Harps 1
UCD 0
St Patrick's Athletic 0

**crc** · 01/09/2008, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

people in Derry don't even pay a licence?

That's a bit of a lame argument in fairness; people in Derry don't even pay for the UK licence!

On the other hand I do pay for my TV licence, unlike lots of Dubs.

**sligored** · 01/09/2008, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Oh and for the record here's a breakdown on Club's appearance on TG4 in the league and cup (played and announced)

Derry City 4
Cork City 3
Bray Wanderers 2
Bohemians 2
Drogheda United 2
Shamrock Rovers 2
Galway United 2
Sligo Rovers 1
Cobh Ramblers 1
Finn Harps 1
UCD 0
St Patrick's Athletic 0

sligo rovers have been on tg4 at least twice this season ie away to galway and shams. when you are giving facts dodge make sure they are accurate

**Dodge** · 01/09/2008, 12:42 PM

Balls, that was my fault, cuuting and pasting. Sorry. Sligo have two.

**Dodge** · 01/09/2008, 12:54 PM

For the record here's the running total of live TV appearances this season (all comps inc friendlies)

Pats 11 (10 on setanta!)
Drogs 10
Cork 10
Derry 10
Bohs 7
Rovers 6
Sligo 3
Galway 3
Bray 2
Cobh 2
Harps 2
UCD 0

Wexford from the first division will make their TV debut with the League Cup final. Could we see a premier division side go the season without being on TV?

**BohDiddley** · 01/09/2008, 1:50 PM

Originally Posted by brendy_�ire

Which match(es) do you think should not be shown? Which should be dropped to make the coverage proportionate?

Non in particular. Just a fair spread. I'm not necessarily arguing for more Bohs matches either, BTW. It's more a matter of using the medium to reach the greater spread of people.
I think if the channel is going to make such a singular selection then it has to have a very strong reason for it.
I'd be flexible and drop either league match, since the cup ones probably can't be changed. I'd replace them with any from the top rung or any from the bottom. Every neutral likes a relegation dogfight. I'm not sure that many will be as enamoured of Derry as TG4's schedulers seem to think.

**Dodge** · 01/09/2008, 1:52 PM

Why, do you think you have better audience data or sponsors feed back than them? Or are you still fighting the losing battle?

**BohDiddley** · 01/09/2008, 2:10 PM

Of course I don't. Do you think that they conduct forensic audience research to discover who wants to watch what eL team on a week-by-week basis?
But I am not making a case for showing Derry three times out of four games, twice against the same opposition. Just calling them Derry in one sentence in the press release and the Candystripes in the next sentence doesn't really cut it in terms of variation, which, as a general rule, is a good thing.

**OneRedArmy** · 01/09/2008, 2:14 PM

Had they known then what they know now (Derry v Cork drawn in Cup and not directly in the title race) I'm sure they would've shown the Cup game and not the League one.

But they didn't, so they won't.

And I'm fairly sure you knew that.

**Dodge** · 01/09/2008, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Of course I don't. Do you think that they conduct forensic audience research to discover who wants to watch what eL team on a week-by-week basis?

No, but they get viewership figures (and usually pretty specific data). If they didn't think it was worthwhile, they wouldn't show them

Fairness has nothing to do with it

**BohDiddley** · 01/09/2008, 2:48 PM

I like TG4 coverage, and I'd be pretty well disposed to watching a game on it as a neutral. But I wouldn't watch three out of four with Derry in them. Who would, other than Derry fans?

garyderry · 01/09/2008, 3:59 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

I see TG4 is to show four matches over the next few weeks, three of them featuring Derry City, two of those being matches against Cork.
Who schedules these, and can someone tell them that, fascinating as they may be, people in Derry don't even pay a licence?

I pay my F**KING Irish TV licience, as do a fair few in all over Ireland,
I would say there are more Derry fans paying for Irish TV liciences as there would be at a lot of EL clubs, its a pretty irrelevant arguement in the first place
and total bull**** if you actually knew where the club is physically located, were a lot of fans would be only a few miles from the ground and living in Donegal,
add to that a fair few fans living and working all over Ireland,

So what is your whinging about?

It happens all the time with different teams at different times.

**BohDiddley** · 01/09/2008, 5:11 PM

That's interesting. What percentage of Derry fans live in the Republic, would you say?
When was the last time three out of a series four games, on any channel in UK or Ireland, featured one mid-table team? Do you really not think that is extraordinary?