Liverpool

**Angus** · 28/08/2008, 7:21 AM

Disgrace - complete disgrace.

How a side who purport to be candidates for big prizes can play with such utter disregard for basic football is bewildering.

Their only strategy is to lump it - every pass in midfield is a hurried "please don't give the ball to me" shift to another clueless player who lumps it.

Half the time the ball was not even on the screen it was so high in the air.

One exception - Alonso - and he is the guy Benitez wants rid of.

Gerrard was a joke - he cannot play midfield and actually refuses to play midfield. He wa slike one of these guys who thinks he is much better than everybody and that a simple tidy pass to a colleague is a waste.

He cannot do it - Benitez knows it but cannot get him out of there. Gerrard is a striker in the Sheringham role but the clueless coach cannot figure how to play Keane Torres and Gerrard.

Utter utter utter tedium

**Monkfish** · 28/08/2008, 7:48 AM

Leige were 14/1 to win last night. The fact Liverpool were cheered off the pitch by their fans shows how small-time that club has become, Stevie G, Babel, Alonso, Keane and Torres are all able to score from distance but should that mean that they shouldnt try and create anything other than a long range shooting stratagy?

Maybe they might get sick of having to scrape into the Champions league through finishing 4th and going through qualifiers and acually make an effort in their domestic league this year? but for a club which has gone from 'best in Europe' to 'decent cup team' I doubt it.

**Roadend** · 28/08/2008, 8:33 AM

Originally Posted by Monkfish

The fact Liverpool were cheered off the pitch by their fans shows how small-time that club has become

Oh right, they should have been booed off then, like proper fans do?

**Monkfish** · 28/08/2008, 8:44 AM

Originally Posted by Roadend

Oh right, they should have been booed off then, like proper fans do?

Why not? it was crap, and they paid a lot of money to watch it.

**Roadend** · 28/08/2008, 9:06 AM

They got the result, in spite of the inept performance, and at the end of the day that is all that mattered last night.

**Splurge** · 28/08/2008, 9:14 AM

Gerard is not even average when he plays in the middle, he's really poor there, doesnt stand out at all. As for Kuyt!!!! Its a good job the cross hit him on the thigh or somewhere rather than his foot or they would still have been looking for it.

**Monkfish** · 28/08/2008, 9:19 AM

Just think 'pool' fans would have expected a little more than to scrape past a 14/1 outsider.

**Roadend** · 28/08/2008, 9:23 AM

1-0 or 10-0 the outcome is still the same, they went though. Nobody is singing from the rooftops about the performance.

**noby** · 28/08/2008, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by Monkfish

Just think 'pool' fans would have expected a little more than to scrape past a 14/1 outsider.

I imagine they would. I sat through the two hours last night, for my sins, and there were a lot of moans, groans and whistles from the crowd. Any last minute winner is going to put a gloss on it, but I would say it was short lived.

**bennocelt** · 28/08/2008, 11:44 AM

Did anyone notice a few Liverpool "fans" leaving, showed just after the goal was scored
man, how could you leave any football game early??

**beautifulrock** · 28/08/2008, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

Did anyone notice a few Liverpool "fans" leaving, showed just after the goal was scored
man, how could you leave any football game early??

wow that is crazy man

**Dodge** · 28/08/2008, 12:34 PM

Pats beat JFK Olimps 2-0 and the Indo wrote about it being a "truly dreadful game"

Man City beat some Faroes team 2-0 and they spoke about how City performed with "professional care"

Anyone see any reports of lat night being one of the worst games of all time? Thought not. It was though..

**Pike B** · 28/08/2008, 12:40 PM

Possible group of death for Liverpool, (or any of the English Clubs)
Liverpool
Bayern Munich
Zenit St Petersberg
Athletico Madrid

**newbie** · 28/08/2008, 1:26 PM

Originally Posted by Angus

Disgrace - complete disgrace.

How a side who purport to be candidates for big prizes can play with such utter disregard for basic football is bewildering.

Their only strategy is to lump it - every pass in midfield is a hurried "please don't give the ball to me" shift to another clueless player who lumps it.

Half the time the ball was not even on the screen it was so high in the air.

One exception - Alonso - and he is the guy Benitez wants rid of.

Gerrard was a joke - he cannot play midfield and actually refuses to play midfield. He wa slike one of these guys who thinks he is much better than everybody and that a simple tidy pass to a colleague is a waste.

He cannot do it - Benitez knows it but cannot get him out of there. Gerrard is a striker in the Sheringham role but the clueless coach cannot figure how to play Keane Torres and Gerrard.

Utter utter utter tedium

how did Gerrard "refuse" to play centre mid?? another person who just singles him out. Kuyt,Beneyoun,Babel,Aurelio and Arbeloa were all MUCH worse than him. how can you expect any centre mid player to play well with the 2 "wingers" coming into the centre,so there is nowhere to spread the ball. Alonso hit a few hopeless balls aswel and i take it youre not a Pool fan? if you were youd notice that Alonso,when played last season,was muck aswel whereas Gerrard and El Nino ran amock.

As for the fans not booing the team?? why should they?? we just won with a last minute winner...if that doesnt excite then what does? every time we lost the ball so easily there was moans and groans. no fans should ever booh a winning result.

Its glaringly obvious Liverpool need 2 wingers who stay out wide. this gives the CM's more room to play rather than trying to fit the ball through the smallest of gaps with opposing players right on top of the receiver!

either way though,played 4 terrible terrible games but are still 2/2 wins in league and into group stages.

SG is out for about a month now though so we will see if Pool miss him or not...im betting we will.

**Angus** · 28/08/2008, 1:27 PM

Originally Posted by newbie

how did Gerrard "refuse" to play centre mid?? another gimp who just singles him out. Kuyt,Beneyoun,Babel,Aurelio and Arbeloa were all MUCH worse than him. how can you expect any centre mid player to play well with the 2 "wingers" coming into the centre,so there is nowhere to spread the ball. Alonso hit a few hopeless balls aswel and i take it youre not a Pool fan? if you were youd notice that Alonso,when played last season,was muck aswel whereas Gerrard and El Nino ran amock.

As for the fans not booing the team?? why should they?? we just won with a last minute winner...if that doesnt excite then what does? every time we lost the ball so easily there was moans and groans. no fans should ever booh a winning result.

Its glaringly obvious Liverpool need 2 wingers who stay out wide. this gives the CM's more room to play rather than trying to fit the ball through the smallest of gaps with opposing players right on top of the receiver!

either way though,played 4 terrible terrible games but are still 2/2 wins in league and into group stages.

SG is out for about a month now though so we will see if Pool miss him or not...im betting we will.

1. Gerrard refused to play centre mid insofar as he went missing. he did not show for the ball - time after time he looked the other way - he did not look to be interested in doing the right thing - he constantly lumped it and "refused" to do the simple centre mid things a la Scholes, carrick, fabregas etc

2. I do not diagree that Kuyt or others were worse but that is not the point - SG is supposed to be a leader and he failed - again

3. I am not a Pool fan but they have the best strikers in the league - the Torres / Keane partnership vastly outweighs Chelse / Arse or Man U but with an ability to create from midfield they will struggle to win

4. You are correct - the lack of width is a problem but I see that as subsidiary to the problem with SG. SG is a top class striker but an average centre midfielder

5. I am not a gimp - relax - calm down - I think Liverpool were crap but that does not a gimp me make !