Nay bother dude. It received a great reaction.Originally Posted by Dunny
All you can ask for. :-)
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Why do commentators say defeat to when it is defeat by and loss to? Why does this annoy me? Why does Bill O'Herlihy annoy me. Why do I follow teams that will NEVER win anything (other than the Celtic Cup). Why are traffic lights green and red? Why did someone who sold Milltown become President of the FAI? Why am I asking so many questions when I should be working?
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
22 degrees and 73% humidity is not particularly enjoyable when stuck in this office.
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To your comment, computer says not completely.
Brigham Young University's Coca Corpus (of 450 million words) of American English reports 113 usages of 'defeat by' compared with 107 usages of 'defeat to'. Definitely not enough of a difference to suggest that 'defeat to' is incorrect.
But the same university also helps house the British National Corpus which shows totals of 292 instances versus 34 for the former and the latter.
So, both acceptable in US English, but less so in British English (though 34 instances is enough to argue that the usage isn't 'wrong').
Yours,
Pedantor.
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Bah, what do Mormons know?
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"Defeated by" surely would be acceptable?
Wormy, I would direct your ire towards your countrymen's in inability to differentiate pluralism with regards to teams and groups.
Liverpool is European Champion! GAH GAH GAH!
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I think that's technically correct (like "that family is rich") but it does sound weird.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Technically... but I prefer our way of pluralising groups.
In your example you could say "that family are rich" also.
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I hate that family.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
Our way? After 800 years it appears you have developed Stockholm syndromeBreak free from the chains of your colonial tormentor and rebel by referring to multiple people acting as a unit in the singular. What do you think the American Revolution was about?
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Well that and the ability to marry your sexy cousins.Our way? After 800 years it appears you have developed Stockholm syndrome
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I'm sorry, I can't take anything you say seriously until you learn to drive on the proper side of the road.
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Ha, when you guys initiate a "driving test" come back to me about driving. :P
I'm petrified about driving amongst ye in WA and OR in July.
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That's not fair, we do have both a written and actual driving test but, due to equality laws, they have to make it so easy that even prospective women drivers can pass it.
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Yeah... I would love to see ye do your test here!
Not to make light of it... but this is shocking...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...ent-casualties
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try doing your test in the north, and then driving with R plates for a year. Learn to use roundabouts!!!!
i believe in one man, one vote. i should be that one man with that one vote.
ALWAYS ON TOUR!
You talking to me?
The standards of driving in the north over the last few years like the state of the roads has plummeted!
Was in Newry and Markethill on Monday and holey moley the messing that was going on. Shocking altogether.
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I've spent the last 6 years with my license (+ some with a learner's permit) dodging female and Asian drivers (I'd assume there aren't nearly as many Asians there as here, unless you live on Craggy Island) and have managed to maintain a perfect driving record -- and that's predominately driving an SUV...roundabouts and sheep don't frighten me. You've already admitted you're "petrified" to drive here so surely that would mean its more difficult to drive here?
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My fear is that there's gonna be Americans on the road. And Canadians. I'm driving from Vancouver (BC, not WA) to Portland.
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Well to be honest it just sounds like you drive like a granny. I will say this, at least in Chicago there can be half a foot of snow and people will be fine on the roads, but if there is even a slight drizzle of rain all of the sudden its gridlock and this was very evident today on Lake Shore Drive.
I can only imagine what it must've been like for Stutts if he was driving you to Poland, especially if it was on the Autobahn..."slow down," "you're going to fast," "you're going to get us killed."
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