Should UCD be in the league stuff

**Xlex** · 10/09/2003, 9:27 AM

Originally posted by pineapple stu
As for the criticism that we play too much football - that's ridiculous! If Cork took the ball down and played, they'd be a much better team than they are now

I might be ridiculed but Town are where we are because of trying to play football... ever since the drogs game we have played ball and I'm hopeing the awful 4-2 defeat to Bohs doesn't force us back to Hoof-ball...

**pineapple stu** · 10/09/2003, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Xlex
I might be ridiculed but Town are where we are because of trying to play football... ever since the drogs game we have played ball and I'm hopeing the awful 4-2 defeat to Bohs doesn't force us back to Hoof-ball...

Xlex, if you ever start to think that hoof-ball is the way to go, just think back to our 2-0 win in Longford last January. Youz hoofed for 90 minutes, did absolutely nothing, we (after a short while doing the same thing!) played yez off the park and scored two brilliant goals.

Hoof-ball will win the occasional game after it's introduced, but teams suss it out very quickly.

**Xlex** · 10/09/2003, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by pineapple stu
Xlex, if you ever start to think that hoof-ball is the way to go, just think back to our 2-0 win in Longford last January. Youz hoofed for 90 minutes, did absolutely nothing, we (after a short while doing the same thing!) played yez off the park and scored two brilliant goals

yeah, and we walked youse of the park 3-0 recently... You have no mutant to guard the back now!!

**pineapple stu** · 10/09/2003, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Xlex
yeah, and we walked youse of the park 3-0 recently... You have no mutant to guard the back now!!

Jayz, I'd just gotten that out my head!!!

Was the Drogs game you were talking about before or after that?

Bottom line though - hoof and be damned like Cork to an eternity of underachievement!

**Xlex** · 10/09/2003, 1:02 PM

a fair few games after....

**S�C** · 10/09/2003, 2:01 PM

Originally posted by pineapple stu

For the record, I will repeat - there is nothing stopping any other club in the country forming their own link with a local college (apart from Longford possibly, as there's no college in Longford!!) and emulating what we do. We've come up with a very good idea and yet people say it's unfair. That's ridiculous. Cork are one team I know who have emulated our scheme with success - and yet their scholarships to UCC are paid by...guess who...the taxpayer!

Well thats not totally correct. The City Scheme is run by Col�iste Stiof�n Naofa (A PLC College with nowhere near the resources of UCD) and doesnt have such a strong link with City as the UCD-UCDAFC link. Liam Murphy, our Technicial Director runs the course so he runs the rule over the best players and sets them up with trials with City but not every player on the course is signed to Cork City, there have been players from Limerick, Ramblers, Waterford, Dundalk and Killkenny on it.

UCC want to keep their own team for themselves so I dont think they'd agree to a link up, although in Basketball they have linked up with the Blue Deamons to form the UCC Deamons.

As Pineapple Stu said nothing stopping every other club in the league doing something like it.

TheOne · 10/09/2003, 3:02 PM

Originally posted by pineapple stu
And incidentally, I don't know the ins and outs of the Patrick Mulvihill story, but almost every player who does play or has played for UCD has found it to be a great experience and there has never been any suggestions of ill-treatment of players. Knowing most of the players, I know that the team spirit in the team is superb. That's not to say the Mulvihill story is untrue; just to point out that at best it's an extremely isolated example. We do have problems with some players, but that's either for them getting too arrogant after picking up some youth caps or not being able to handle the study.

The Paddy Mulvihill story is true and is by no means an Isolated incident. An other example would be Stephen Lynch who after playing in the UEFA Cup with Longford was poached by UCD under the scholarship scheme only to be chucked the following season.

**Xlex** · 10/09/2003, 3:16 PM

Originally posted by TheOne
The Paddy Mulvihill story is true and is by no means an Isolated incident. An other example would be Stephen Lynch who after playing in the UEFA Cup with Longford was poached by UCD under the scholarship scheme only to be chucked the following season.

apperently Lynch deserved to go, he didn't do much to retain his scholarship... what about Skim?

**CollegeTillIDie** · 10/09/2003, 3:34 PM

Colm

We like Cork City have got used to playing on Friday nights. And also like City fans have altered our lifestyles accordingly. I would have been at the game had it taken place on Friday night. I was unable to attend the game on Sunday. The advent of summer soccer causes problems for anybody involved with other soccer teams which play in the summer on Sundays like I am .
I have been to over 700 UCD games over the past 22 years , and frequently attend games between our respective clubs at the Cross too.

Most of our supporters don't travel to away games for the record, not even Dublin Derbies in such hospitable places as Dalymount, Richmond Park( Rovers) and The Stadium of Light ( St. Patrick's Athletic) and Tolka Park ( Shelbourne)

And according to figures quoted on this site our average attendances are in the 950-1,000 region. We would have got something closer to the average on a Friday night.
But despite losing a player to International Duty ourselves , we accomodate your club by playing on a Sunday.

If we have the misfortune to go down, you may not be so fortunate in your dealings with the newly promoted club next season.

**UCD_4_Life** · 10/09/2003, 4:14 PM

We have a Supporters' Club?!

**John83** · 10/09/2003, 5:40 PM

Originally posted by UCD_4_Life
We have a Supporters' Club?!

Ask the program sellers at the games. It was only founded two games ago, but it's free.

**pineapple stu** · 10/09/2003, 9:07 PM

Originally posted by UCD_4_Life
We have a Supporters' Club?!

PM me your e-mail if you want and I'll sign you up and send out the first newsletter.

**pineapple stu** · 10/09/2003, 9:10 PM

Incidentally, it's worth pointing out that very few of the players we release actually go on to do anything in the league. Mulvihill would be a (minor) exception, as would Glen Fitzpatrick and E�in Keating. But the UCD scheme is based around exams just as much as training, so if you can't hack the exams, you won't last.

**ccfcman** · 11/09/2003, 8:40 AM

its a shame really as ucd deserve to be in the topflight

**Schumi** · 11/09/2003, 2:23 PM

Split from Doolin leaving/new manager thread.

**Schumi** · 11/09/2003, 2:29 PM

Just to say on points raised above about the scholarships. I don't know anything about Mulvihill or what happened him but I was surprised when didn't get a 1st team start after scoring $hit loads of goals in the under 21s and more surprised when he was subsequently let go. As for Steven Lynch, he was $hite and I was far from surprised when he was let go.

**Ref** · 11/09/2003, 2:34 PM

Originally posted by pconnor
Pats have a fine facility in inchicore.

ah come on!

**Aberdonian Stu** · 11/09/2003, 4:00 PM

I can't go into too much detail as I don't know exact figures but I do know this much. The basic (ie what we, yes we (including mysel,f @ndy and pineapple), the taxpayers pay for) is the same for all sports and isn't worth $hit to a grasshopper but the main money comes from fundraising as we are able to provide better deals than other sports due to our fundraising efforts.

**Colm** · 11/09/2003, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by ccfcman
its a shame really as ucd deserve to be in the topflight

Please explain how they "deserve to be in the top flight"?

**�anna** · 11/09/2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by ccfcman
its a shame really as ucd deserve to be in the topflight

If they are relegated because of their results that won't be the case! I have enormous respect for the people at UCD and their fans for keeping a small club in the premier for so long, but they would not survive in a professional league which is what I hope we will have in the near future.