Financial Survey of Clubs

**oldyouth** · 07/08/2008, 7:15 PM

Originally Posted by Youths4Ever

firstly this is not a thread on the building industry which it seems to have turned into when reading through it

Totally agree with my colleague here. The thread is about the financial status of the clubs in the league, not the economy

**finnpark** · 07/08/2008, 8:47 PM

Well overall crowds are poor and players are overpaid. St Pats, Cork, Bohs and Drogs have very good players but there are hardly a good 11 amongst all the other clubs put together including Derry,Sligo And Shamrock.

In fact I suspect that many of the teams are like Harps, out boozing half the time and getting paid professional wages.

The prices into matches seem too high for a start and what is the story with having matches on a Friday night?

Any clown would tell you that Saturday night games get bigger crowds, especially outside the capital.

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**Paddyfield** · 07/08/2008, 9:56 PM

Originally Posted by finnpark

Any clown would tell you that Saturday night games get bigger crowds, especially outside the capital.

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Galway United played all home games on Saturday nights for 5 years but crowds increased when the Club switched to Fridays.

**passerrby** · 07/08/2008, 10:18 PM

there was no financial survey just guesstimate by some hack jurno with a friend with an agenda

**finnpark** · 07/08/2008, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Paddyfield

Galway United played all home games on Saturday nights for 5 years but crowds increased when the Club switched to Fridays.

Yeah, I would suspect that in Galway alright as Galway wouldn't have many exiles returning home plus most of the fan base is local. Saturday is better for the rural teams though, Harps for definite anyway.

**Paddyfield** · 07/08/2008, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by finnpark

Yeah, I would suspect that in Galway alright as Galway wouldn't have many exiles returning home plus most of the fan base is local. Saturday is better for the rural teams though, Harps for definite anyway.

A slight majority of GUFC fans live in County Galway not Galway city. A marketing survey by 3 NUIG students revealed this in 2003.

**pete** · 08/08/2008, 12:26 AM

Whatever about the top full time players getting paid a lot some part times are definitely doing better. Even at E500 a week on average 40 week season is 20k which is good money for training 2 nights a week & 1-2 matches. Might even be net tax. If they were playing non-league would put in as much effort.

**gufct** · 08/08/2008, 8:16 AM

Seems like its spreading.The Stars back page says Cork Players havent been paid for 3 weeks and they owe �800k to their Creditors including the Taxman.

**pineapple stu** · 08/08/2008, 9:52 AM

Not the worst article I've ever read about the league, though ultimately it said nothing we didn't know anyway. The top four are losing ridiculous sums of money, the solution to which is to get rid of everyone else and only have Dublin derbies it seems. Nothing major is going to happen until the top four get a reality check though.

Interesting that Shels, the most cooperative club, are apparently still drawing down the lease on Tolka. Wonder what our friend higgins would say?

**Buile Shuibhne** · 08/08/2008, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Interesting that Shels, the most cooperative club, are apparently still drawing down the lease on Tolka. Wonder what our friend higgins would say?

From what part of the Indo article did you dream that up?

**pineapple stu** · 08/08/2008, 10:17 AM

From the bit about the "ground situation", where it said Shels were exploring their options but still drawing down the lease on Tolka.

**finnpark** · 08/08/2008, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by gufct

Seems like its spreading.The Stars back page says Cork Players havent been paid for 3 weeks and they owe �800k to their Creditors including the Taxman.

Surely if they haven't being paid for 3 weeks thats an automatic points deduction?

The wages Cork are paying out are crazy. Gamble on over 3000 euro per week. Its laughable. Clubs, north and south, should be going together to put in place a wage cap. Its ridiculous to have 2 or more clubs within the same league bidding players wages up. The players here are simply not good enough to be doing that. At least Paul Cook brought in quality foreigners. Its about time Irish clubs looked for quality foreign players rather than offering basic Irish players more and more money.

**jinxy lilywhite** · 08/08/2008, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by finnpark

Surely if they haven't being paid for 3 weeks thats an automatic points deduction?

The wages Cork are paying out are crazy. Gamble on over 3000 euro per week. Its laughable. Clubs, north and south, should be going together to put in place a wage cap. Its ridiculous to have 2 or more clubs within the same league bidding players wages up. The players here are simply not good enough to be doing that. At least Paul Cook brought in quality foreigners. Its about time Irish clubs looked for quality foreign players rather than offering basic Irish players more and more money.

Absolutely agree the wages are an absoute joke.
For second rate players who would just about hold their own in the championship.
A bit of realism is needed by clubs. Completely unsustainable

**passinginterest** · 08/08/2008, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by finnpark

Surely if they haven't being paid for 3 weeks thats an automatic points deduction?

Don't they all become free agents if they go unpaid for 2 consecutive weeks? Like what happened to Waterford?

Can any of the Cork posters shine any light on the subject? I thought all was well going pretty well with the investors.

**saint morrissey** · 08/08/2008, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Fintan Cassidy

From what part of the Indo article did you dream that up?

surely you could have read the article before responding to that in such a dismissive manner

**Buile Shuibhne** · 08/08/2008, 11:05 AM

I read the article online - link in the first post of this thread.

No mention there of 'ground situation'

**razor** · 08/08/2008, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by gufct

Seems like its spreading.The Stars back page says Cork Players havent been paid for 3 weeks and they owe �800k to their Creditors including the Taxman.

I think its been 2 weeks since wages were paid, I heard the Meyler money went straight to the taxman but as far as I know there are a list of other creditors, but having said all that what football club doesn't have creditors?