Creativity in midfield

[noby]

good guess petef!

schumi, that is an ignorant response. it's dan connor should be in goal

i mean , if o'flynn and o'callaghan are good enough...

[Ultan]

Originally posted by joeSoap
originally posted by Ultan:
Ultan...you are an idiot...goodbye!!!

I was waiting for someone to take me up on this... Paul McGrath started as a full back, learnt his trade as a full back and always classed himself as a full back who was played out of position. He was just best remembered for his central midfield displays at international level and his latter-day career games at central defence.

I think you should know your facts and history before you class people as "idiots".

[Schumi]

Originally posted by Colm
Schumi, that's exactly the kind of ignorant response I was expecting.
However, you wouldn't have been one of the people I expected it from!

Oh come on, you seriously think O'Callaghan should start for Ireland?

[Colm]

Originally posted by Schumi
Oh come on, you seriously think O'Callaghan should start for Ireland?

He's as good as any of the other options, imo he's better than Flynny. I mean if Crowe can get in the squad then surely I'm not being at all unrealistic.
I think that old inferiority complex is rearing it's head again, sure if he was any good he wouldn't be still playing for City! What a load of crap!

[Schumi]

Originally posted by Colm
I think that old inferiority complex is rearing it's head again, sure if he was any good he wouldn't be still playing for City! What a load of crap!

It's not that at all, I just don't think he's at that level (yet?) whether he plays for Bohs or Cork.

[John83]

Originally posted by Ultan
Is O'Shea worth a look in centre midfield? He looks comfortable on the ball and seems to make an effort to use it when he gets it, certainly more so then the crap like Kinsella and Holland. He's already played there for Man United and by all accounts didn't look out of his dept. Coupled with the fact we have full backs a plenty I think it should at least be tried in a future friendly.

Remember, Paul McGrath was essentially a full-back who played in the middle of the park for Ireland.

It's a good suggestion, and the vast bulk of Man Utd fans who have the faintest idea of what football is believe that O'Shea is being groomed to eventually take over Keane's old role for them. Certainly, he has the attributes and the ability, though Keane's influence was as much down to his attitude and mental toughness as any talent.

I don't remember O'Shea playing in midfield for Man U yet though. They've tried Butt, Phil Neville, even Michael Stewart, but not O'Shea. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Incidently, despite rating O'Callaghan highly, I don't think very many eL players are up to international standard. He might be worth a risk if there was an injury crisis, but not under normal circumstances.

[pete]

Originally posted by John83
Incidently, despite rating O'Callaghan highly, I don't think very many eL players are up to international standard. He might be worth a risk if there was an injury crisis, but not under normal circumstances.

Yeah even Crowe is really only deserving of a squad place when some injuries. Then again the forward options are so thin now that Connolly could be dumped for anyone else.

[Ultan]

Originally posted by John83
It's a good suggestion, and the vast bulk of Man Utd fans who have the faintest idea of what football is believe that O'Shea is being groomed to eventually take over Keane's old role for them.

That'll be all 3 of them then.

He definitely, definitely, definitely did play in centre mid-field for the Man United first team, I seen him interviewed after it and he was saying how much he enjoyed the chance (it was in a league cup tie) and that he'd love to be there more often. He also said he played there regularly for the reserves.

May I be struck down by Kevin Hunt if I am wrong...

[Macy]

Originally posted by Ultan
That'll be all 3 of them then.

LOL

[Slash/ED]

I remember O'Shea in central mid field, worthington cup tie against Preston (I think!?) either way, he was fantastic, and it was his class through ball that brought about a goal (Forlan scored it I think).

I wouldn't mind seing Kevin Hunt in an Ireland shirt, apparently he'll be a naturalised citizen this year and his family are Irish and he'd jump at the chance to play for us, he's good enough I think given our central mid field options.

[pete]

Originally posted by Slash/ED
I remember O'Shea in central mid field, worthington cup tie against Preston (I think!?) either way, he was fantastic, and it was his class through ball that brought about a goal (Forlan scored it I think).

In fairness i'm sure i'd look fairly handy playing for Manchester in midfield against Preston.

[Seamus #1]

Originally posted by Ultan
I was waiting for someone to take me up on this... Paul McGrath started as a full back, learnt his trade as a full back and always classed himself as a full back who was played out of position. He was just best remembered for his central midfield displays at international level and his latter-day career games at central defence.

I think you should know your facts and history before you class people as "idiots".

Kevin Phillips started his career at Southampton as a right back. Essentially all these years he has been playing out of position as a striker!

Some players start in one position and mature into another.

For my money McGrath played 99% of his club career as a centre back the only time I remember him playing full back was for Ireland in Malta in the last qualifying game before Italia 90. Chris Morris was injured so McGrath played right back.

[Lionel Hutz]

Although he has only made a handful of appearences, I like many other Celtic fans believe Liam Miller could be the one!
Assuming he stays fit for a sustained period of time we will soon find out as he is now first choice replacment if either Lamber or Lennon get injured so this comming phase of champions league football may show us just how close he is OR isnt to being a quality midfielder

[Ultan]

Originally posted by Slash/ED
I wouldn't mind seing Kevin Hunt in an Ireland shirt, apparently he'll be a naturalised citizen this year and his family are Irish and he'd jump at the chance to play for us, he's good enough I think given our central mid field options.

Kev said last year that he thought people who played for countries that they had little connection with was "sad" and stated that he would never feel comfortable playing for another country other then Eng-ger-land.

[Ultan]

Originally posted by Seamus #1
Some players start in one position and mature into another.

Absolutely! And that was the point I was trying to make, and I hope everyone got, bar this joeSoap guy. Words like 'sharpest knife', 'drawer', and 'not the' come to mind...

[Slash/ED]

Originally posted by Ultan
Kev said last year that he thought people who played for countries that they had little connection with was "sad" and stated that he would never feel comfortable playing for another country other then Eng-ger-land.

He seems to have gone back on that though, I definitely saw him say recently he'd love to play for Ireland and would do given the chance.

[John83]

Originally posted by Slash/ED
He seems to have gone back on that though, I definitely saw him say recently he'd love to play for Ireland and would do given the chance.

Yeah, that was posted here, and met with mixed response. If he really wants to play, and if he's good enough, I wouldn't have a problem with that. On the other hand, lots of people would.

[sadloserkid]

Originally posted by Colm
No doubt I'll be laughed at for suggesting this but, if it's creativity you're looking for, I honestly believe George O'Callaghan is at least worth a try.

I'll laugh. Some games at eircom league level seem to pass him by lads so I can't see him playing a senior international.