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    Quote Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse View Post
    I did a check on Jet2.com there a few weeks ago as my brother had booked a flight from Cork to Newcastle for approx €120.

    I just reversed the destination on the same date and could have got it for £60. The Euro is screwed automatically. At the time the exchange rate in the UK was 1.21!
    Whoosh........

    I think you need to read a bit more on how airline fares are calculated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maribor View Post
    Whoosh........

    I think you need to read a bit more on how airline fares are calculated.

    Do explain. I make no bones about the fact that I don't know how airline flights are calculated or how a trip to the same destination on the very same day would cost a lot more in one currency than it would in another
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    It seems to be more expensive to buy using euro i was on Play.com and when the price was in sterling i worked it out using xe.com as costing 40 euro but when you click for the site to calculate it, it was 46 euro dont know if they factor in postage but for a site that offers free postage it would be poor form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse View Post
    Do explain. I make no bones about the fact that I don't know how airline flights are calculated or how a trip to the same destination on the very same day would cost a lot more in one currency than it would in another
    Your first post said that your brother booked a flight from Cork to Newcastle for €120, but you reversed the destination(Newcastle to Cork) on the same dates and it cost only £60.

    This is totally independent of the value of euro.
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    As Maribor has intimated airlines uses complex predictive models with fairly meaty algorithims to set fares.

    Thats why fares may go up and down many times in the days and months before a flight.

    Nothing to do with the exchange rate, generally this is one area where airlines are fairly fair.

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    It is reasonably easy to predict what price fares will increase to although not 100% accurate. On Ryanair for example pick 2 tickets for random destination for next week, then try say 6 tickets & keep increasing ticket quantity. You will see the price per ticket increase in increments based on how many seats remaining. The more seats sold the more expensive the remaining seats as airlines know someone booking at short notice (e.g. business) are less price sensitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    It is reasonably easy to predict what price fares will increase to although not 100% accurate. On Ryanair for example pick 2 tickets for random destination for next week, then try say 6 tickets & keep increasing ticket quantity. You will see the price per ticket increase in increments based on how many seats remaining. The more seats sold the more expensive the remaining seats as airlines know someone booking at short notice (e.g. business) are less price sensitive.
    Ryanairs model is fairly simple & include more rules rather than behavioural or predictive factors. They also only do point to point bookings which keeps it simple.

    Other airlines release seats into fare buckets on a regular basis and hence there are regular price fluctuations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maribor View Post
    Your first post said that your brother booked a flight from Cork to Newcastle for €120, but you reversed the destination(Newcastle to Cork) on the same dates and it cost only £60.

    This is totally independent of the value of euro.
    Fair enough. Both were return journeys though. So the same airports are visited at the same times on the same dates just in different order. Was just pointing out what I felt was a major difference in price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    As Maribor has intimated airlines uses complex predictive models with fairly meaty algorithims to set fares.

    Thats why fares may go up and down many times in the days and months before a flight.

    Nothing to do with the exchange rate, generally this is one area where airlines are fairly fair.
    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post

    Other airlines release seats into fare buckets on a regular basis and hence there are regular price fluctuations.

    Oh I see...

    I knew that the prices would vary from day to day just wasn't expecting such an obvious gulf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208 View Post
    It seems to be more expensive to buy using euro i was on Play.com and when the price was in sterling i worked it out using xe.com as costing 40 euro but when you click for the site to calculate it, it was 46 euro dont know if they factor in postage but for a site that offers free postage it would be poor form.
    You can't just pluck the rate off XE currency converter at any given time and expect things to match it. If you go into a bank it will use a midmarket rate from yesterday's activity to give you a stable rate for today, so if you look at XE it will be giving you today's market rate up to date by the minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse View Post
    Fair enough. Both were return journeys though. So the same airports are visited at the same times on the same dates just in different order. Was just pointing out what I felt was a major difference in price.
    Well i was booking flights today on the aerlingus website and there was over 40 euro in the difference on the same flight at the same time depending on if i was paying euro or dollars. I checked the irish site got the price , opened a new window checked it on the american one spotted the difference even put it back into the irish one again to see if the price had dropped and it was still more expensive. so i think you have some thing there

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208 View Post
    Well i was booking flights today on the aerlingus website and there was over 40 euro in the difference on the same flight at the same time depending on if i was paying euro or dollars. I checked the irish site got the price , opened a new window checked it on the american one spotted the difference even put it back into the irish one again to see if the price had dropped and it was still more expensive. so i think you have some thing there
    Aer Lingus are targeting US based travellers at the minute with lower fares due to the weakness of the dollar. I think they are also getting much cheaper business class seats on Aer Lingus (possibly 50% less?).

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    NEXT is terrible,translating sterling into euro and rounding up a good bit
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    Bought a small item up north today in Dunnes that cost £10...the euro price on the tag was €20 when the current conversion rate makes it €12.63.

    If you live anywhere near the north at all, it's well worth making the trip because it's a complete joke down here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse View Post
    Fair enough. Both were return journeys though. So the same airports are visited at the same times on the same dates just in different order. Was just pointing out what I felt was a major difference in price.
    Think of it this way - a flight from Dublin to Manchester on the morning when ManU are playing a home game is going to cost more than the same flight that afternoon. Likewise the flight from Manchester to Dublin late that evening is going to cost more than the same flight that morning.
    So Dub - Man am and Man - Dub pm = expensive
    whereas Man - Dub am and Dub - Man pm = cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto1208 View Post
    Well i was booking flights today on the aerlingus website and there was over 40 euro in the difference on the same flight at the same time depending on if i was paying euro or dollars. I checked the irish site got the price , opened a new window checked it on the american one spotted the difference even put it back into the irish one again to see if the price had dropped and it was still more expensive. so i think you have some thing there
    Did you try to book the exact same flights? i.e Dublin-US-Dublin or was it US-Dublin-US in dollars
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    The moral of the story really is this - Ireland is currently a ****hole - overpriced , lousy Government, Recession hit and greedy - Get out now

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    But believe it or not it is getting better (due mostly to the EU).

    When I was younger I can remember customs agents searching every car crossing the border for people bringing normal household goods and even shopping south. You had to either pay the duty or get it confiscated!

    The only way prices will reduce is through competition, ie people going to the North or wherever and forcing prices in Ireland downwards.
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    When booking flights for say 6 people.

    - check price for 6
    - then check price for 3
    it is usually cheaper if you book for 3 people twice than if you book for 6.

    Done it before and worked out at about 20eur cheaper per ticket.
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