Rip Off Ireland Prices

[Macy]

They don't seem to have much of a turnover of staff either, judging from our local store.

[Student Mullet]

When I was in Tesco's Lidl paid nearly double the hourly rate. There's a lot of busy work done in Tesco's, facing off shelves and arranging the products into displays where as the staff in Lidl's will roll a pallet of stock onto the shop floor and then go back for the next one.

[John83]

Slightly off topic but I saw an advert for Lidl jobs last week. I would have thought they paid minimum wage but paying something like E2 above it for starting salary.

Their management training and pay is supposed to be excellent.

[eamo1]

Lidl operate with a skeleton staff and only order things as they need them,unlike Tesco and Dunnes who use to do the opposite although now they are changing.If youve been to Dunnes or Tesco lately you will have noticed your quing time at the check out is now much longer,they started cutting back on loads of staff and cutting hours for existing staff.A manger in Dunnes told me sales are down 15-20% this year but usually you can add another 5% to what they are saying.Also,Lidl pays its staff monthly,this is to avoid some tax they'd have to pay etc.So because they do this and only order as they need too and clear it out ASAP they can afford to sell cheaper.Plus,they import foods from countires that have weak currencies,polish zyolta for example.
I just wished i liked more of the products in Lidl,i dont and so keep shopping in Dunnes.

[Macy]

I wouldn't have noticed the stocking being any worse in Lidl. Infact, I'd say it would've been one of the things that annoyed us about Tesco when we started shifting over 4 or 5 years ago.

Just out of interest, why would monthly pay mean less tax than weekly pay? I can see it'd be less admin, but not sure where the tax implication would be?

[Student Mullet]

I wouldn't have noticed the stocking being any worse in Lidl. Infact, I'd say it would've been one of the things that annoyed us about Tesco when we started shifting over 4 or 5 years ago.

Lidl's have their specials. If I want a bicycle pump from Tesco's I go along and buy one. If I want one from Lidl's I keep an eye on their website 'til they get them in and then head in at 8am to be sure of getting one.

[pete]

Their management training and pay is supposed to be excellent.

While I did not work for supermarkets I previously worked in that field & Retail Management in all the multiples is very good. Probably a very good career starting point too but not easy. I have seen adverts for Lidl Management & they seem to put Assistant Managers in charge of individual stores with Senior Managers overseeing several of them.

The thing about supermarkets is even in recessions people still need to buy food.

I saw in Sunday paper talk of Asda moving into the Republic as apparently they are already in the North. Of course they are owned by Wal-Mart so massive buying power. If Dunnes get squeezed in a price war would they look to sell up?

[thischarmingman]

Slightly off topic but I saw an advert for Lidl jobs last week. I would have thought they paid minimum wage but paying something like E2 above it for starting salary.

I've read a few articles about how horrible a place it is to work in. There's one particular article I'll look for but for now I've found these:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...y.supermarkets

The German discount supermarket chain Lidl has been accused of spying on its employees, including recording how many times they went to the toilet as well as details about their love lives, personal finances and menstrual cycles.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...t.supermarkets

With more than 400 stores in the UK - and plans to open another 40 this year - Lidl is becoming the supermarket of choice for foodies in search of a bargain, as well as families on a tight budget. Yet while Tesco comes under fire for its aggressive expansion, no one seems to care what Lidl does - even if some staff suffer in the rush for profits.

[pete]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...t.supermarkets

That articles would not look out of place in the Telegraph or Daily Mail.

Tesco is British, Lidl is German. There are shopping baskets and neatly stacked shelves in Tesco; only pay-for trolleys and piled-high pallets in Lidl. The former is giving loyalty-card points; the latter is charging 3p per carrier bag.

In Ireland does any one even mention German & Lidl in the same sentence?

[Ringo]

Lidl blames price gap with Germany on our higher taxes

http://www.independent.ie/business/p...s-1443708.html

SUPERMARKET giant Lidl last night defended huge price variations between its Irish and German stores, blaming higher government taxes here for the difference.

An independent survey showed Irish customers paid up to €11 more for 700ml bottles of gin and whiskey, and a basket of 18 assorted items cost €37.51 more in an Irish store than in its German equivalent.

In Ireland, the 18 products -- including toilet paper, bread, pasta, juice, chocolate, fish cheese and spices -- came to €73.19, but in Germany they came to only €35.68.

The most marked difference was in the price of alcohol.

A 750ml Margot whiskey, a 750ml dry gin and three different bottles of wine came to €19.35 in Germany, but in Ireland they cost 250pc more, at €47.71.

i think the earlier point of we pay what we deserve fits well here.

[Macy]

http://www.independent.ie/business/p...s-1443708.html

The "Independent" spins for big business, again.

[Macy]

Lidl's have their specials. If I want a bicycle pump from Tesco's I go along and buy one. If I want one from Lidl's I keep an eye on their website 'til they get them in and then head in at 8am to be sure of getting one.

I was more thinking of the general stock, which I find tesco and dunnes brutal for keeping stocked. The specials are specials - I would've thought at this stage everyone would be aware they have to be there early if they're a good deal.

[pete]

You can't compare drink between Ireland & Germany as our taxes on those goods are huge in comparison. easier to compare food as no tax on most foodstuffs.

[Student Mullet]

I was more thinking of the general stock, which I find tesco and dunnes brutal for keeping stocked. The specials are specials - I would've thought at this stage everyone would be aware they have to be there early if they're a good deal.

You're right but it's much easier to keep the general stock stocked when you have a much narrower range of products. The range available in tesco's is much wider than Lidl's and you're much more likely to run out, either on the shelf or in the storeroom, if you're maintaining small stocks of a large number of products instead of large stocks of a smaller number of products.

[soccerc]

You're right but it's much easier to keep the general stock stocked when you have a much narrower range of products. The range available in tesco's is much wider than Lidl's and you're much more likely to run out, either on the shelf or in the storeroom, if you're maintaining small stocks of a large number of products instead of large stocks of a smaller number of products.

When Tesco bought out Power Supermarkets they introduced a huge Point of Sale system that was supposed to improve stock levels.

It was designed also to calculate, estimate and restock within 24 hours once minimum stock levels were reached. It failed miserably as Irish shopping patterns differ hugely from those in the UK

[John83]

When Tesco bought out Power Supermarkets they introduced a huge Point of Sale system that was supposed to improve stock levels.

It was designed also to calculate, estimate and restock within 24 hours once minimum stock levels were reached. It failed miserably as Irish shopping patterns differ hugely from those in the UK

Marks & Spencers have a working system like that. Their Grafton St store is (or was) too small to have any substantial stock room, and when they first set it up (it was their first store here) they had no other property here. Everything had to be shipped over from England. Daily shipments were calculated based on stock levels, packed into the lorries in such a way as to have the items for the back of the store first out of the lorry and so on. My little brother is studying commerce and was telling me about it. Sounds like a fantastic piece of work.

[Student Mullet]

I've worked with the electronic system in Tesco's and a paper based one in Supervalue and Supervalue's is much easier and more reliable.

[pineapple stu]

Just out of interest, why would monthly pay mean less tax than weekly pay? I can see it'd be less admin, but not sure where the tax implication would be?

It wouldn't. You have an annual tax credits sum and an annual 20% tax band, which is divided by 12 or 52 as appropriate.

[Macy]

It wouldn't. You have an annual tax credits sum and an annual 20% tax band, which is divided by 12 or 52 as appropriate.

That's what I thought - even under the old non-cumulative system I don't think it would've made any difference. It's a few years since I worked in payroll so just wasn't 100%.

[drinkfeckarse]

I did a check on Jet2.com there a few weeks ago as my brother had booked a flight from Cork to Newcastle for approx €120.

I just reversed the destination on the same date and could have got it for £60. The Euro is screwed automatically. At the time the exchange rate in the UK was 1.21!