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    A fine tradition ends. Atletico Bilbao sell their soul.

    http://www.footballshirtculture.com/...ship-deal.html

    Cant think of any other teams that refuse to have sponsors now?.. Barcelona have a charity sponsor but still a name across the front.
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    aston villa now are doing the same as Barca

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    Was expecting they'd signed a truck load of brazilians or something, to break that other tradition they have...
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    They had a sponser in UEFA Cup a number of seasons ago, so it broke it then really. As Gavin says, their tradition of only playing Basque players, I think that will continue for some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    Was expecting they'd signed a truck load of brazilians or something, to break that other tradition they have...
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
    They had a sponser in UEFA Cup a number of seasons ago, so it broke it then really. As Gavin says, their tradition of only playing Basque players, I think that will continue for some time.
    What about Bixente Lizarazu
    http://www.footballdatabase.com/inde...xente_Lizarazu

    When he joined Athletic Bilbao (please note English influence), he was asked 'You are Eskudi, we thought you were French'. His reply 'Non, non, Je suis Eskudi...pas Francais'. So he plays for them a little while and plays continues to play for the French National side and is asked by the Les Bleu fans 'you are Basquois?, we thought you were Francais' and his reply was 'oui, oui, je suis francais....toujours....'*


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    Lack of sponsors is not the tradition I think of when hear Athletico.
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    Lizarazu was born in one of the Basque provinces of France.

    AFAIK, the criteria for players is that they were born in one of the seven Basque provinces (four in Spain, three in France). Though an exception was made for some Venezuelan player who's parents were Spanish-Basques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
    ...their tradition of only playing Basque players, I think that will continue for some time.
    How did Nihat get to play for them a few years back?

    EDIT: Never mind. He played for the other Basque team: Sociedad.

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    Loads of Spanish players have played for Bilbao. There's a thread about it here somewhere. (Loads of managers too). Lizarazu is defintely a basque though.

    Sociedad have the rule of being either Basque or foreign (i.e. not Spanish)

    And of course the rules aren't written down
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    Thankfully this thread isn't what I thought it was going to be. I love being Athletic Club de Bilbao in Football Manager - the Basque only policy makes it a great challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holidaysong View Post
    Thankfully this thread isn't what I thought it was going to be. I love being Athletic Club de Bilbao in Football Manager - the Basque only policy makes it a great challenge.
    Nah not for me, I can't even stick South America because of transfer limitations.

    I also thought when I read the title that they had signed non-basque players.

    IMO Bilbao's basque rule is fine - embracing your own culture, whereas Sociadad's rule of we'll sign anyone who's not Spanish seems to be a bit discriminatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Loads of Spanish players have played for Bilbao. There's a thread about it here somewhere. (Loads of managers too). Lizarazu is defintely a basque though.

    Sociedad have the rule of being either Basque or foreign (i.e. not Spanish)

    And of course the rules aren't written down
    Yup; just reading Morbo now; Athletic (not Atletico as noted earlier) Bilbao kind of change the rules as it suits them (and then, correctly, I suppose, note that there is no such rule in the first place). They're almost entirely Basque, but not exclusively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevo Da Gull View Post
    IMO Bilbao's basque rule is fine - embracing your own culture, whereas Sociadad's rule of we'll sign anyone who's not Spanish seems to be a bit discriminatory.
    As opposed to only signing players who are Basque enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    As opposed to only signing players who are Basque enough?
    There is a difference though, signing basque and part-basque players is like having a team of Police where only members or previous members of the force may play. Comparatively Sociedads team is made up of anyone who's not a, let's say, fireman... ok it's a poor comparison but you see what I'm getting at?

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    Athletic discriminate against players who are not Basque whereas Sociedad discriminate against players who are Spanish.

    It'd be like an Irish team only signing Irish players and having another one who won't sign Travellers.
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    We'll have to agree to disagree. I see it as one club for Basque players and one club for anyone who's not Spanish, I am aware that Bilbao is the club more associated with Basque pride etc but in terms of transfers I reckon their system is less offensive to the Spanish people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevo Da Gull View Post
    IMO Bilbao's basque rule is fine - embracing your own culture, whereas Sociadad's rule of we'll sign anyone who's not Spanish seems to be a bit discriminatory.
    Probably cause they dont like the spannish...?
    Lad in work from san sebastien was telling me Lizarazu left Athetico because he wouldnt pay the revolutionary tax to ETA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billsthoughts View Post
    Probably cause they dont like the spannish...?
    Lad in work from san sebastien was telling me Lizarazu left Athetico because he wouldnt pay the revolutionary tax to ETA.
    Em, as you know people get stuff wrong.
    First ask your friend is he 'from San Sebastian or Donastia (or near the city)?'.

    Second, please find BBC report from 2001 regarding M. Bixente Lizarazu and the extortionate requests he suffered from the nationalists, four years after he left Athletic Club Bilbao.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...zu-688316.html

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    Just to annoy those who are annoyed by it being pout there wrongly I'd assume. same people would do their nut at the lack of an l
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Just to annoy those who are annoyed by it being pout there wrongly I'd assume. same people would do their nut at the lack of an l
    (if 'pout' means 'put' I understand the post,)


    There is a big H'istorical reason for the English spelling. It started off cultural but got political later on. And footballwise there is a famous Madrid club for comparison, which always helps.

    Maybe for Billsthoughts it's anecdotal, I'll wait to find out.

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