Drogs TV Coverage

**holidaysong** · 29/07/2008, 11:02 AM

Were Manchester United not playing at the same time as RT� were showing the home leg of Shels vs. Deportivo in the CL QR3? If they were then I think this shows that RT� would show the Irish team...

**LeixlipRed** · 29/07/2008, 11:03 AM

With Lansdowne out of operation where would an Irish club play their home CL games if one qualified this year or next? Obviously pie in the sky but is their any venue with good enough floodlights?

**Dodge** · 29/07/2008, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by holidaysong

Were Manchester United not playing at the same time as RT� were showing the home leg of Shels vs. Deportivo in the CL QR3? If they were then I think this shows that RT� would show the Irish team...

Well they mightn't have had the rights to the Man U qualifiers (as they're seperate from the main rights) and anyway, as gspain pointed out, they must show the local team as part of their rights package (They'd also have to provide at least 12 cameras to cover the game...)

**Dodge** · 29/07/2008, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by LeixlipRed

With Lansdowne out of operation where would an Irish club play their home CL games if one qualified this year or next? Obviously pie in the sky but is their any venue with good enough floodlights?

Richmond and Dalymount have. We had to upgrade ours last year for the UEFA Cup. I presume dalymount did likewise

**Duggie** · 29/07/2008, 11:06 AM

croke park

rds maybe ?? wont happen anyway.

**Schumi** · 29/07/2008, 11:08 AM

RDS is probably the only option, assuming Croker isn't available.

**LeixlipRed** · 29/07/2008, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Richmond and Dalymount have. We had to upgrade ours last year for the UEFA Cup. I presume dalymount did likewise

Isn't there a different standard for the qualifying and the actual group stages though?

**dublinred** · 29/07/2008, 11:09 AM

A lot of interest in this game in work today hopefully RTE do it some justice and give it decent coverage lets hope Shoddy isn't let near this one, Tony O'Donohue/Seanie Connor would be a good combination given his PR background Seanie is great at hyping things up.

**Dodge** · 29/07/2008, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by LeixlipRed

Isn't there a different standard for the qualifying and the actual group stages though?

Not sure. As you said pie in the sky so I didn't look too deeply into ti

**Duggie** · 29/07/2008, 11:13 AM

prob be richardson

**paul_oshea** · 29/07/2008, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Guys - cop on ffs.

Whether I live in Ireland doesn't change the commercial realities of the world RTE operates in. And what does me not living there have to do with it anyway ?

RTE would show whatever attracts a big crowd. And an Irish team in the group stages of Europe would be very big sporting news, and attract a big crowd. So why the hell wouldn't they ? They might have to make a trade-off versuis English teams - but it would be made primarily on a commercial basis, over-laid with their 'obligation' towards Irish programming.

If you think they'd cuit their commercial nose off to spite their face out of some in-built hatred for domestic football - why are they doing MNS every week, and why are they showing the two Drogs games live - even if none of those attracts a particularly big crowd ? I suppose they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to broadcast all of those through gritted teeth as well....

RTE have a poor past record on Irish football, but it has improved a lot recently (and there is room for further improvement). That said, though, there's enough chips on shoulders about them on this site to keep McDonalds supplied for a year...

great post Steve, nothing like a dose of realism based on a balanced view point.

**BohDiddley** · 29/07/2008, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by gspain

It makes commercial sense for them to show imported U.S. shows like Desperate Housewives but this must be balanced with programmes like MNS and you would think live domestic football as well.

Plenty of mention of sport in the Public Service Broadcasting Charter, which is what stops 'commercial realities' turning the station into TV3 or Channel 6. Of course, the political reality is that many in RTE will interpret promoting Irish sport as giving hours of hyped coverage to GAA.

**A face** · 29/07/2008, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by gspain

Remember also that RTE are not just a commercail organisation. they are a public service broadcaster. They get a licence fee. This means they have an obligation to show things that are in the public interest rather than commercially viable.

Why isn't the domestic game huge here so? They do not act like a national broadcaster and haven't been doing so for years, yet still increase the license fee every chance they have.

Originally Posted by Dodge

Oh and RTE's deal to show MNS has nothing to do with the international rights. It'll obvioiusly put them in the FAI's good books though

Thats not what ws said by people in the FAI at the time, �5m was the price tag being given not to show MNS. Its good they are doing it ..... but kickin' and screamin' are two words i'd be using here.

Originally Posted by Dodge

Well they mightn't have had the rights to the Man U qualifiers (as they're seperate from the main rights) and anyway, as gspain pointed out, they must show the local team as part of their rights package (They'd also have to provide at least 12 cameras to cover the game...)

But dont they argue that the Nations viewers want to see ManU at the cost of domestic games. They fight tooth and nail on this point when ever it is contested. They would show ManU over an Irish game because there is less work for them.

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Plenty of mention of sport in the Public Service Broadcasting Charter, which is what stops 'commercial realities' turning the station into TV3 or Channel 6. Of course, the political reality is that many in RTE will interpret promoting Irish sport as giving hours of hyped coverage to GAA.

Exactly, "surely we can be called a sports mad country" .... just look at who is saying it ffs.

**DSandy** · 29/07/2008, 12:49 PM

On a slightly off-topic note, does anyone know if tickets for the game tonight will be available outside the ground before kick-off?

**WindmillWarrior** · 29/07/2008, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by DSandy

On a slightly off-topic note, does anyone know if tickets for the game tonight will be available outside the ground before kick-off?

I'm sure they will. Haven't heard anything about it being sold out an anyway

**Dodge** · 29/07/2008, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

great post Steve, nothing like a dose of realism based on a balanced view point.

Please point out any of the non realistic posts from unbalanced point of view in this thread

A face excluded obviously

**paul_oshea** · 29/07/2008, 1:58 PM

Simply, Democracy dictates. RTE show what the majority of people in Ireland want to see, if they didnt, they wouldn't bring in any revenue and would be shut down a long time ago. Unfortunately for the EL, the majority of people in this country want to see cross-channel soccer as oppossed to Irish soccer.

DCFC_Steve simply pointed out that from a commercial point of view, and not a "we-hate-the-EL-thats-why-we-dont-show-games" point of view, rte shows what the people want to see.

**gustavo** · 29/07/2008, 2:00 PM

Are there many countries where a broadcaster can be both commercial and also demand a licence fee?

**Dodge** · 29/07/2008, 2:07 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

DCFC_Steve simply pointed out that from a commercial point of view, and not a "we-hate-the-EL-thats-why-we-dont-show-games" point of view, rte shows what the people want to see.

Actually, thats what I and a number of other posters said. Steve said they'd show the Irish team. But continue to not read the thread and just wade in anyway

**ifk101** · 29/07/2008, 2:17 PM

To follow on from Dodge's earlier post, the following site is now updated with links for tonight's game.

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?ma...34&part=sports