QuoteWhile I agree there's a lot of alarmist comment, do you have any sort of back up at all that the RTÉ report is full of lies?
I cannot believe how this thread unfolded ..... Chicken Licken if i ever saw it. I would have thought that most LOI fans would know better at this stage.
There is no way eircom could pull out of a contract straight away, unless one of the parties had breached it.
The media RTE and Breaking News have [edited text] reported on this issue in a manner which is alarmist in the extreme, and they have continued to report upon it while they [edited text]knew it was misleading.
Their behaviour can only be described as reckless and irresponsible.
I have no doubt that there is a clause in the contract that will allow for a window where the FAI can look at other potential sponsors while eircom would be given the option of something similar to first refusal.
At no time did either party deny that the sponsorship was being revoked.
It is standard practice that both parties would discuss the contract given the time frame and neither party suggested that that was not happening.
On Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:39 RTE reported this ...
This is a statement as if fact ...... They are saying that it is ending, have they been told otherwise?RTÉ Sport has learned that eircom will end their sponsorship of the Irish domestic league at the end of the current season.
They contrived and manufactured the story initially when there was nothing to suggest this was no more than standard practice and no where near the bad news story they would have us believe. How can they continue to do so?
This is clear, if the contract is for a fixed term, and this term is due to end then this is not something that you can be alarmist about. Its something that is inevitable, unless someone can stop time.Both deals are due to expire this year
They are stating this as fact ..... againthe company expected to maintain their relationship with the international side but end that with the domestic game
The FAI have said ....
So its not the FAI that are supporting RTEs claims, is it eircom?We are currently in discussions with eircom on all aspects of sponsorship. The talks are at an advanced stage and we won't be commenting any further until they have concluded.
Or is this just another typical RTE stunt again? Is this what we are paying out license fee for? Tabloid gutter journalism? [edited text] RTE should be trying to maintain standards?
Can the FAI/eircom take action against them? I can see how they wouldn't have a case given the time frames involved here throughout the day.
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The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
While I agree there's a lot of alarmist comment, do you have any sort of back up at all that the RTÉ report is full of lies?
Originally Posted by sonofstan
Yep. We were all there. Disguised as 14 year old girls.
That's as alarmist a comment as I've read on this thread to be fair, they're hardly reporting that Sellafield has gone into meltdown and law and order has broken down for our remaining few minutes
Last edited by jebus; 24/07/2008 at 6:07 PM.
Can't see any reason why RTE would be making this up ....
A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.
Here it is for ya ....
Do they have anything to suggest that anything out of the ordinary was happening?
Can they tell us that there was anything other than standard practice was being adhered to?
Can they tell us if either party were not fulfilling their contractual obligations?
Was there any breach of contract? was there any arbitration?
Given all the other sponsorship deal across all the other codes, can they give us grounds as to why they singled out this particular deal and reported on it as if things had soured, and continued to report on it when told it was not the case.
If they ran with the story initially, would it not be up to them to support their reasons for being so alarmist. How exactly does this deal differ from any other deal that is due to expire?
Why is it a bad news story if both parties were discussing the sponsorship and agree to leave it run its course, leaving the FAI available to find an improved sponsor.
My problem with this in a nutshell, NOTHING in this story so far suggests it is bad for the league, so why is it being reported as such.
Last edited by A face; 24/07/2008 at 6:12 PM.
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Do they have any sort of back up that the report is true?? They said in the report that the FAI & eircom are refusing to comment. So who told them???
Unless there was a certain Monday night show up for the chop......
I'm trusting that they're not making stuff up, which I admit is a bit of a leap of faith when it comes to journalists. But they clearly have some source, whereas A Face is just making stuff up.
The Lansdowne Naming rights are being negotiated in the near future.
The most likely outcome is that whoever gets them may well want to sponsor bothe the national soccer and rugby teams.
Eircom, or any other major company, are unlikely to enter into a new sponsorhip agreement until the naming rights have been sorted. In fairness if O2 get the naming rights like at the Point, do you see Eircom sponsoring the soccer team, at the home of a potential major competitor???
The most likely sequence of events is
Naming Rights for Stadium Finalised.
This company to sponsor both IRFU and FAI or the deal being subject to either or both organisations agreeing new sponsorhios with non conflicting partners.
If Eircom are still on board as FAI main sponsors they will sponsor the LOI and if not the new major FAI sponsor will most likely be the LOI sponsor as well.
So IMO it's a load of bull**** from tabloid jounalists who know f*** all.
Fair Play died Nov 18th 2009, Stade Francais.
What am i making up?
What part of this story anywhere suggests that this was a bad news item, that it was bad for the leagues interests?
- I'm not saying fans thinking the sky is falling down, they dont count
- I'm not saying the alarmist 'we'll sell a few more papers' attitude of the media
- I'm not saying the 'no more comment' rebutal to the media when the FAI already said they were both in talks as you would expect
I'm saying the actual story itself as we can see it now.
What part is bad?
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
This, for example -
- is an allegation you've completely failed to back up. Ditto -The media RTE and Breaking News have fabricated a story of lies and deceit
They contrived and manufactured the storyAll this makes you as bad as you're making RTÉ out to be, to be honest.they are lying
Thats my point exactly. They made this story up, a load of old cobblers and they have been found out. They must of known from the start that it wouldn't hold much water.
I dont know who was huddled around the table saying "right folks, a bit of straw clutching here for a story" but they had very little to work with first day. I'd say they are lovin' it that it actually got this far.
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
You keep saying that. Do you have any proof to offer? If not, you're as bad as you're making RTÉ out to be, and you're the biggest over-reactionary on the thread.
Come on Stu, do you not think its sad that the National Broadcaster has to crutch up a story which is completely contrived and manufactured with a sob story from Sligo Rovers chairman when its completely two separate issues
Does the Rovers Chairman get fined now for this? Talking about something he is not even involved in?
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
You've just called them liars again without so much as a shred of proof. Do you not see the irony in that?
I dont have proof that they made it up, because its not there, they are the only ones to come up with it.
I look at that facts, i see there is nothing out of the ordinary and no cause for alarm ..... i think its inexplicable that they get 27 for 2 + 2
I do not except that i'm as bad as RTE here because ..... i dont take vast amounts of money from licence fee payers to report cobblers back to the people i take the money from.
I am looking at the way they have handled this story and i have made a call on it ..... i'm saying that its pathetic and sad state of affairs if the National Broadcaster have to stoop this low to get a news story
Are there not countless other ways they could have reported the factual content of this story and not in a misleading and contrived manner.
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
No they didn't
Has it been denied?
.,,.but you've called them liars all the same without knowing the source or its' veracity
I sincerely doubt that attitude pervails in editorial terms at the national broadcaster.
TV3 lead with it too, but you didn't castigate them.
Relax and chillout, it must be the oxgygen debt up on the high horsey
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"It's time for the FAI to grow up." John O'Donoghue, Minister for Sport, RTE , Sunday 7 Nov 2004
You are trusting them that they are not making it up ..... I AM NOT. I have seen it countless times before and i will put money down on it that it wont be the last time we see it either.
Stu, they got the whole day out of it with their alarmist drivel, there was five pages of it on here before i commented. I dont have a shread of evidence that they have lied except from the facts, the facts that they didn't report on.
I personally would love to see how they came to the conclusion, that this was bad for the league. Who made this decision? How did they come to this conclusion and report on it as if it were fact.
I see the irony Stu .... and two wrongs dont make a right, i hear ya but are you not tired of this? Why do they always go to make bad news out of something when there is nothing there. Why does the league always suffer?
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Have you read soccerc's post at all? Or did that not fit in with your world view?
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