1st division

**Longfordian** · 02/10/2008, 9:54 PM

I think Higgins in particular needs spell in the dunce's corner after that prediction. Double figures indeed.

**LeixlipRed** · 02/10/2008, 10:15 PM

I'd say Higgins couldn't give a flying **** about his prediction being wrong. Dundalk lost. League is back on for us

**RonnieB** · 02/10/2008, 10:27 PM

I would still sooner see Dundalk go up.

**higgins** · 02/10/2008, 10:29 PM

I couldn't give a fiddlers!!!

I do know one thing...
This must be the worst First Division in history.

To be honest,, no team deserves promotion.

It has been awful

**Longfordian** · 02/10/2008, 10:34 PM

No team seems to want to go up either. Could Shels afford a Premier Divison campaign?.

**hollocaine** · 02/10/2008, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

No team seems to want to go up either. Could Shels afford a Premier Divison campaign?.

Not with the way their own "fans" are getting the club fined for certain misdemeanours according to the Shels website.

Who would want to get promoted really? The full-time teams can have their own league and the rest of us could compete in a new 17-team First Division next season!

**eamo1** · 02/10/2008, 11:07 PM

Dundalk's Big Annual Collapse is underway and you hate to see it.A team that seems well in control of a division and then throws it all away.I seem to recall it happening in other seasons recently too.I really hope they go up though,they derseve it.They ruined my accumulator for the second week running,were always a good bet for a win now i aint so sure.

**higgins** · 02/10/2008, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

No team seems to want to go up either. Could Shels afford a Premier Divison campaign?.

Do you know the difference in income levels from the first division and the premier division ?

Find that difference and add it to the first division expenditure.

The answer is a YES.

Will we have the money to stay up ?
Probably not....
But we will certainly have more income playing in the Premier Division and teams on small budgets have managed to stay up previously so who knows.

For example I'd imagine we could comfortably spend as much as UCD spend and they have managed to stay up many times.

With the drop off in crowds the question should really be 'Can we afford not to go up' !!

**Longfordian** · 02/10/2008, 11:27 PM

Well yeah, I probably phrased the question wrongly. I really meant would ye have enough coming in to be competitive and not get carried away like other promoted teams?. But I guess you could fund a part time team alright. A lot more Dublin derbies would certainly help.

**trevy** · 03/10/2008, 8:48 AM

I was delighted to see the score on aertel last night. I couldn't believe it when I saw Longford 2-0 up. A win for Waterford v Athlone and we go top tonight. Shels and Sporting Fingal are still in with a a chance too.

**Lamper.sffc** · 03/10/2008, 9:20 AM

Originally Posted by trevy

Shels and Sporting Fingal are still in with a a chance too.

Dont say it. Everytime sporting have a chance to well and truly challenge for this title we bottle it. So im saying nothing,

except that

**shep** · 03/10/2008, 9:52 AM

Cant believe it,every year........i feel sick,1st Division is depressing,and i am well and truely depressed

**Louth4sam** · 03/10/2008, 9:52 AM

Not a chance we will win the league. I think Waterford have it as they can win the league now with a draw at home against us. We simply are not good enough even with the highest wages in the division. Gill needs to go even if by some miracle we win the league.

**shep** · 03/10/2008, 9:55 AM

[quote=Louth4sam;1032471. Gill needs to go even if by some miracle we win the league.[/quote]

Totally agree!!!

**Duffman** · 03/10/2008, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Louth4sam

We simply are not good enough even with the highest wages in the division.

I was under the impression that Fingal held that distinction?

**Louth4sam** · 03/10/2008, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Duffman

I was under the impression that Fingal held that distinction?

I'm pretty sure we have spent the most on players. I think Fingal do have more available to them though.

**The Lilywhites** · 03/10/2008, 10:15 AM

Fingal have the highest wage bill.

**Dodge** · 03/10/2008, 10:21 AM

Can anyone post up the current table and the run in for the 4 clubs involved

**Ash** · 03/10/2008, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by trevy

A win for Waterford v Athlone and we go top tonight. Shels and Sporting Fingal are still in with a a chance too.

Waterford havent managed to beat us on the last 2 games so I reckon we'll hold out for a draw. (famous last words!!!)

**noby** · 03/10/2008, 10:28 AM

Dundalk 30 59
Waterford United 29 57
Shelbourne 29 53
Sporting Fingal 28 50

Dundalk:
Wexford (a)
Sporting Fingal (h)
Waterford (a)
Limerick (h)
Athlone (h)
Kildare (a)

Waterford United:
Athlone (h)
Fingal (a)
Limerick (a)
Dundalk (h)
Kildare (a)
Shels (h)
Monaghan (a)

Shels:
Monaghan (h)
Athlone (a)
Wexford (h)
Longford (a)
Fingal (h)
Waterford (a)
Lomerick (h)

Fingal:
Limerick (a)
Athlone (a)
Waterford (h)
Dundalk (a)
Kildare (h)
Shels (a)
Monaghan (h)
Wexford (a)