To all LOI fans

[Rovers fan]

Firstly, our averages weren't even that high in 2004.

and secondly Columbo, did it ever cross your mind that while playing Premier football and winning titles, the away support was much bigger with teams like Derry, Cork, Pats, Bohs and Rovers all bringing in and over a thousand people to games Tolka.

1)Well those figures were taken from the attendances thread so they must be quite accurate.

2)Yes,these teams were bringing 1300 fans every week,that makes up for the difference So I'll have to accept that all shels fans stayed loyal

[micls]

1)Well those figures were taken from the attendances thread so they must be quite accurate.

Shels had rubbish crowds, even when they were winning the league.

[Rovers fan]

Shels had rubbish crowds, even when they were winning the league.

They declined from 04 onwards,again according to the attendances thread.
It can't be that far off anyway.

[CharlesThompson]

How in the name of sweet Jaysus has this turned into a crowd bashing, you're worse than us posturing excersize?!

Who give's a flying fück what anybody's crowd size was 5 or 6 years ago? It's the most irrelavant argument/discussion point that this (rapidly going downhill) forum has at any time.

FACT. If a team starts to do well and win trophy's then the crowds will in 99% of cases increase (bar Shels of course). This is a formula proved the world over. When a team starts to do badly (Bohs for instance) crowds will fall away. Simple.

FWIW, in relation to the actual point of this thread (though I'm damned how I remember what it was after reading 2 pages of pure drivel), then it is IMO generally speaking not going to benefit anybody if somebody is going to get slagged off for coming to an eL game for the first time whether they were the jersey of another team in football or another code. No matter what anybody here likes to believe there is a generalisation about eL football and its supporters which has been waved like the Jolly Roger by the general media in this country for more years than I care to remember. And part of that generalisation is to paint us as 'holier than thou' group of people that do not want our game taken over by 'Johnny come lately's'.

The upshot then is that people can be wary of coming to eL matches and their 'fears' may well come to pass on the utterance of a throw away mark from any regular attendee at our games.

That said, if he's given up based on that then he could probably well be one of those lads that went looking for an excuse not to come back. Easier to turn down opportunities to come to games later on in life.

[skitz3]

1)Well those figures were taken from the attendances thread so they must be quite accurate.

Yes of course they are, all that guess work is quite accurate. I've been discussing this on Shelsweb recently but i don't believe the attendance figures on here one bit.

2)Yes,these teams were bringing 1300 fans every week,that makes up for the difference So I'll have to accept that all shels fans stayed loyal

Areyou trying to say 1300 fans every other week wouldn't make that difference? For as long as i've been going to Shels games regularly there has been a hardcore of about 800 fans. Of course like every team (winning things or not) some come and go, a few have gone due to being demoted, mainly young lads who now go to either Bohs or Rovers so they were never much fans in the first place.

[osarusan]

Oh no, the achillies hill in my arguement.

Isn't that a mountain in Scotland?

[Dave77]

Me mate told me this in the pub with a few drinks on him. he wasnt upset just kinda making the point i gave it a go (have been hassling him to go for a while to go) and didnt like it, he was there with his girlfriend and was ****ed off.

and it just struck me because i had just read fanzine.

as some people have said on this forum maybe he didnt really go in the right mindset.