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    Zidane doped?

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    he was bloody good wasn't he. crushing if true
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    I think we'd all be fooling ourselves if we wouldn't admit that deep down we know all the top sports stars are doping. Doesn't diminish from Zidane being the best player of our generation in any way, same as it didn't for Maradona
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    Its come up before about Italian doping in the 90s.

    Funny how ZiZou got better when he left and went to Madrid
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    As stojkovic pointed out, Italian football was full of doping in the 90's. Zidane, Del Piero, most of that Juve side were giving "special injections" to keep them going.

    There was one incident where, the night beofre the UEFA Cup final in '96, iirc, Paolo Cannavaro recorded (or else was recorded by someone else) a video of one of his teammates getting one of these injections. Parma won the UEFA Cup the next night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    Italian football was full of doping in the 90's.
    You're kidding yourselves if you think it was just italian football, and just in the 90's. If you don't test you don't get positive results.
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    Ever wondered how a football player can recover from an ankle injury in two weeks, the same injury that would require us normal humans to rest it for two months?

    On an aside I'm constantly amazed that people are amazed when a football game is found to rigged. I remember readin a quote from a mafia boss in relation to when they started fixing college basketball games in the US, he said that if there's money to be made from betting on something, you can be sure that that something is rigged. Had a real eye opener a while back when I was in Ladbrokes putting a few weekend bets on. An Asian man walked to the counter, produced a roll of 50s and put a bet on Spurs drawing with Chelsea 4-4 at what I can only imagine was ridiclous odds, you can imagine my surprise when the score came through that weekend that Spurs had in fact drawn 4-4 with Chelsea
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    I know Zidane and much of Juve were taking creatine, which is legal, but it would be interesting to see someone come out and admit to something like EPO or steroids.

    Anyone else cynical enough to think this could be a marketing ploy though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    it would be interesting to see someone come out and admit to something like EPO or steroids.
    Sure cortisone, a steriod, is practically boasted about in football... "A. Random Player got a (cortisone) injection to enable them to play"
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    It's more useful as a painkiller though, right?
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    At the time Zidane was at Juventus, the delle alpi was more awash with substances than the poppy fields of the Panjshir Valley... Juventus have always been a corrupt team, operating beyond the margins of legality

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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    It's more useful as a painkiller though, right?
    It's not a painkiller - it's a steriod that reduces inflammation, which as a consequence can reduce pain.
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    Makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    Doesn't diminish from Zidane being the bets player of our generation in any way, same as it didn't for Maradona
    Agree. I'm pertty sure there's no drug out there that makes you damn good. Should point out that I don't condone drug taking, etc, etc, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    Ever wondered how a football player can recover from an ankle injury in two weeks, the same injury that would require us normal humans to rest it for two months?

    On an aside I'm constantly amazed that people are amazed when a football game is found to rigged. I remember readin a quote from a mafia boss in relation to when they started fixing college basketball games in the US, he said that if there's money to be made from betting on something, you can be sure that that something is rigged. Had a real eye opener a while back when I was in Ladbrokes putting a few weekend bets on. An Asian man walked to the counter, produced a roll of 50s and put a bet on Spurs drawing with Chelsea 4-4 at what I can only imagine was ridiclous odds, you can imagine my surprise when the score came through that weekend that Spurs had in fact drawn 4-4 with Chelsea
    Haha bet you were kicking yourself for not copying the Asian guy's bet, next time you'll know what to do.
    Not sure how they would rig that game though, exact scores are difficult to rig, were both keepers in on it to let in exactly 4 goals but no more? Seems a lot easier to just bribe the ref or one of the keepers and just bet on the winner. Wouldn't be surprised one bit if it was discovered that a lot of premiership refs were bribed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morbo View Post
    Haha bet you were kicking yourself for not copying the Asian guy's bet, next time you'll know what to do.
    Not sure how they would rig that game though, exact scores are difficult to rig, were both keepers in on it to let in exactly 4 goals but no more? Seems a lot easier to just bribe the ref or one of the keepers and just bet on the winner. Wouldn't be surprised one bit if it was discovered that a lot of premiership refs were bribed
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    Doesn't diminish from Zidane being the best player of our generation in any way, same as it didn't for Maradona
    Maradona was banned for doing cocaine. Cocaine is not a performance enhancer or something that will help you recover more quickly, etc.

    Being banned for taking cocaine isn't as bad as being banned for taking a performance enhancing drug or something that will help you recover, etc.

    Taking cocaine is not cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Agree. I'm pretty sure there's no drug out there that makes you damn good. Should point out that I don't condone drug taking, etc, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    Maradona was banned for doing cocaine. Cocaine is not a performance enhancer or something that will help you recover more quickly, etc.

    Being banned for taking cocaine isn't as bad as being banned for taking a performance enhancing drug or something that will help you recover, etc.

    Taking cocaine is not cheating.
    He was suspended in 91 for taking cocaine, he was suspended in 1994 for ephedrine however, which is a performance enhancing drug

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    He was suspended in 91 for taking cocaine, he was suspended in 1994 for ephedrine however, which is a performance enhancing drug
    Apologies then. He's also a cheat.
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