North Tipp & District League 2008/09

**daz22** · 23/09/2008, 12:06 PM

am automatic relegration maybe a bit harsh, i know borrisoleigh were told over the last 2 seasons that if they missed one more game in a certain period of time they would be thrown out completly.sometimes clubs may not be able for other reasons such as exams, holidays,weddings,funerals but i do see your point about hurlers.There already is standards in place but they are not being adhered to.i know ballymackey are trying with new facilities but the debt they are putting themselves in is crazy especially when they might fold in next 5,6 years.

also a few hurlers do turn up every game no matter if hurling same day,these people are in a minority i know.

also my view on a different matter,on the youths league, it is only the nenagh teams plus blackcastle who have youths every year, its a farce,teams dont field every week,excuses for calling games off.
"Same clubs" got a chance this year to pool resourses and join together for a youths team but nobody did,why?

On the matter of not fielding 11 players that is not a rule that the league can envoke because under FIFA rules teams can play once they have 7 players as you may know.

i note your point about teams entering their should be a committment given that they have to pay for enter to the league for 3,5 years,to act as a bond so that it may deter these type of teams you are on about,what you think??

**bawn79** · 23/09/2008, 1:13 PM

Originally Posted by daz22

am automatic relegration maybe a bit harsh, i know borrisoleigh were told over the last 2 seasons that if they missed one more game in a certain period of time they would be thrown out completly.sometimes clubs may not be able for other reasons such as exams, holidays,weddings,funerals but i do see your point about hurlers.There already is standards in place but they are not being adhered to.i know ballymackey are trying with new facilities but the debt they are putting themselves in is crazy especially when they might fold in next 5,6 years.

also a few hurlers do turn up every game no matter if hurling same day,these people are in a minority i know.

also my view on a different matter,on the youths league, it is only the nenagh teams plus blackcastle who have youths every year, its a farce,teams dont field every week,excuses for calling games off.
"Same clubs" got a chance this year to pool resourses and join together for a youths team but nobody did,why?

On the matter of not fielding 11 players that is not a rule that the league can envoke because under FIFA rules teams can play once they have 7 players as you may know.

i note your point about teams entering their should be a committment given that they have to pay for enter to the league for 3,5 years,to act as a bond so that it may deter these type of teams you are on about,what you think??

I dont think Ballymackey will fold, although i do think we will have to take things a little slower. On the other hand we are in a fairly good position at the moment. I would see the whole thing being a 10 - 20 year plan in paying it off. But you know someone has to take the first step.
It will be a ballymackey fc company that will be formed to run the development, so even if ballymackey football club "fold" then the company will still be responsible for building a facility for the area.
Ballymackeys underage set-up is pretty good, seemingly with had 100 young lads/girls playing one saturday which is a lot of sets of parents.
What im saying above about there being too many clubs makes these developments harder, coz there are less people running each club, which makes it much harder to take a risk.

I agree that some weeks its unavoidable not being able to field a team, however in this situation it should be well know in advance. Im talking about when no one is notified then it is automatic relegation.
We tried to have a youths team this year, organised an evening for lads to go training for it but the promised numbers never turned up.

Im sure a fine could be put in place for teams not fielding 11 players.

Bond idea isnt bad, Id personally prefer some concrete plans on developing facilities. Could be in conjunction another club, for instance Im sure Ballymackey would welcome input from other teams in Toomevara and the surrounding areas.

**Flexible** · 23/09/2008, 1:16 PM

Hi,

Speaking from the team that Ballymackey beat last Sunday ( thanks for your hospitality by the way,lads ) we were having the same conversation regarding hurlers on the way home. We are by no means a team of hurlers as we have two teams and a schoolboy structure but on Sunday last because of a hurling match we had six first choice players missing. The argument was whether we could do without them or not and the answer was obviously not. Normally they would be finished now and beacuse Waterford progressed in the all-ireland we are suffering. Our league ( The WWEC ) have a rule that if you fail to fulfil two fixtures in a season you are gone and only can come back the following season by paying a bond of 200 Euro.

**Benjy Riordan** · 28/09/2008, 6:49 PM

Some interesting results this weekend. Lisselton winning in Nenagh in the MSC and Blackcastle United beating Nenagh Celtic in the premier division and wins also for Birdhill and Clough it looks at this stage that the premier league could be very interesting this year.

**bawn79** · 29/09/2008, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Benjy Riordan

Some interesting results this weekend. Lisselton winning in Nenagh in the MSC and Blackcastle United beating Nenagh Celtic in the premier division and wins also for Birdhill and Clough it looks at this stage that the premier league could be very interesting this year.

Ya some surprising results alright, dont know much about Lisselton, I believe they are from Kerry?
Hopefully it will be a more tightly run affair this year, no harm in having competition.
We got a lucky win against Borrisoleigh, they still are a very strong team and Id say they will be there or there abouts come the end of the season.

I believe we are getting a fine for not having a rope around the pitch. Never heard of this before, I wonder how many teams in North Tipp comply with this?

**Benjy Riordan** · 29/09/2008, 12:37 PM

Fining a club for not having a rope around the pitch would be OK if the rule was enforced on all clubs - which I don't believe it is. I also think the league would initially be far better off enforcing standards in relation to playing gear, i.e. fining clubs for not having matching togs and socks - in this day and age, there's no excuse for a club not being able to put out a team in matching kit.

**bawn79** · 01/10/2008, 2:41 PM

I was reading about the Munster Senior Cup, would it be possible for a team from Tipperary to join the Munster Senior League, what are the criteria etc?
How come none of the South Tipp sides are in it?
What are the differences between Junior, Intermediate and Senior? Ive always presumed that Senior football in Ireland was the Premier and 1st Divisions of the League of Ireland.

**Benjy Riordan** · 01/10/2008, 7:30 PM

Originally Posted by bawn79

I was reading about the Munster Senior Cup, would it be possible for a team from Tipperary to join the Munster Senior League, what are the criteria etc?
How come none of the South Tipp sides are in it?
What are the differences between Junior, Intermediate and Senior? Ive always presumed that Senior football in Ireland was the Premier and 1st Divisions of the League of Ireland.

As far as I know Clonmel Town used to play in the MSL as did the now defunct St. Ailbes from Thurles in the mid 80's. Apart from meeting minimum criteira as regards club facilities, I don't think there is anything preventing a NTDL club from applying to join the MSL.
Why aren't there any TSDL or NTDL clubs in it ?
Well I guess part of the answer to that lies in the fact that the majority of Clubs in the league are from Cork, so there would be quite a lot of travelling involved.

**bawn79** · 07/10/2008, 7:36 AM

Bump!

**mr. man** · 09/10/2008, 4:06 AM

Saturday October 11th
FAI Junior Cup

Cappoquin v Templetuohy 7pm.
Blackwater v Ballingarry 3pm

Sunday Oct. 12th
FAI Junior Cup 2nd. Round
(Extra Time and Penalties)

Moneygall v Nenagh AFC 2pm.
Sallypark v Thurles Town 2pm
Nenagh Celtic v St. Nicholas 3pm.
Toomevara v Cashel Town 3pm.
Birdhill v Wilderness Rovers 3pm.
Clonmel Town v Cloughjordan 3pm.
St. Michaels v Blackcastle United 3pm.
Peake Villa v Clodiagh Rangers 3pm
Cahir Park v Borroway Rovers 3pm.
Rosegreen Rangers v Ballymackey 3pm

Any Predictios lads ??? How will the north tipp teams get on against non north tipp teams ??

**Benjy Riordan** · 09/10/2008, 8:05 AM

Originally Posted by mr. man

Saturday October 11th
FAI Junior Cup

Cappoquin v Templetuohy 7pm.
Blackwater v Ballingarry 3pm

Sunday Oct. 12th
FAI Junior Cup 2nd. Round
(Extra Time and Penalties)

Moneygall v Nenagh AFC 2pm.
Sallypark v Thurles Town 2pm
Nenagh Celtic v St. Nicholas 3pm.
Toomevara v Cashel Town 3pm.
Birdhill v Wilderness Rovers 3pm.
Clonmel Town v Cloughjordan 3pm.
St. Michaels v Blackcastle United 3pm.
Peake Villa v Clodiagh Rangers 3pm
Cahir Park v Borroway Rovers 3pm.
Rosegreen Rangers v Ballymackey 3pm

Any Predictios lads ??? How will the north tipp teams get on against non north tipp teams ??

Predictions in Bold !

**mr. man** · 10/10/2008, 3:29 AM

Originally Posted by mr. man

Saturday October 11th
FAI Junior Cup

Cappoquin v Templetuohy 7pm. 2 . 0
Blackwater v Ballingarry 3pm 3 . 1

Sunday Oct. 12th
FAI Junior Cup 2nd. Round
(Extra Time and Penalties)

Moneygall v Nenagh AFC 2pm. 0 . 3
Sallypark v Thurles Town 2pm 2 . 1
Nenagh Celtic v St. Nicholas 3pm. 4 . 1
Toomevara v Cashel Town 3pm. 1. 3
Birdhill v Wilderness Rovers 3pm. 1 . 0
Clonmel Town v Cloughjordan 3pm.

St. Michaels v Blackcastle United 3pm. 3 . 2
Peake Villa v Clodiagh Rangers 3pm 5 . 0
Cahir Park v Borroway Rovers 3pm. 4 . 0
Rosegreen Rangers v Ballymackey 3pm 3 . 1

Any Predictios lads ??? How will the north tipp teams get on against non north tipp teams ??

My predicitions !!!

**hooper74** · 12/10/2008, 6:12 PM

any feedback from any of the north tipp teams in relation to the clashes with south tipp sides?

**daz22** · 12/10/2008, 8:47 PM

Nenagh Celtic had an easy victory ova st.nicholas, Nenagh afc easily beat moneygall, birdhill hammered the wilderness rovers,Toomevara were deservedly beaten by div 1 side cashel town, cloughjordan were unlucky against a depleted clonmel twn and heard michaels beat blackcastle.o ya and as expected clodaigh got a beating from peakevilla, sallypark beat thurles on penos.

**bawn79** · 13/10/2008, 5:09 PM

Originally Posted by daz22

Nenagh Celtic had an easy victory ova st.nicholas, Nenagh afc easily beat moneygall, birdhill hammered the wilderness rovers,Toomevara were deservedly beaten by div 1 side cashel town, cloughjordan were unlucky against a depleted clonmel twn and heard michaels beat blackcastle.o ya and as expected clodaigh got a beating from peakevilla, sallypark beat thurles on penos.

Ballymackey lost 5-0 to Rosegreen, we havent been going well lately. Lost 4-1 the previous week to a much worse team in Templetouhy.
Rosegreen were handy, 6-7 very good players. Could see they were short in a few positions but you could see they knew what they were at trying to move our defence all over the place. We were left chasing shadows for a lot of the game.

**mr. man** · 13/10/2008, 6:04 PM

Clonmel Town 1 Cloughjordan 1 (AET ) clough lose 12. 11 on pens..

We play well and it is such a hard way to lose the game on penos..
Clonmel were awarded a pen half way through the first half which they converted.
we levelled it with around with around 15 mins to go.
Have to say that there was some really strange offside decisions made against us when we were clearly onside.. Ref was blowing his whistle every time the town players roared at him..
We had a chance to win it in extra time but the keeper made a good save..
Overall twas an even enough game... Best of luck to town in the next rounds , but i dont think they will go that far imo...

**daz22** · 13/10/2008, 9:34 PM

clonmel twn were missing quite a few players plus are never in top form at this time of year.their aim is to be in all competition at xmas and then they push on hard,usually hitting good form.Look away draws you are always going to get that with referees so no point even giving out,it the norm,unfair but true,u have to agree.

**bawn79** · 16/10/2008, 2:21 PM

Just did a search for North Tipp Soccer and this thread comes up as No. 3 in the search results, pretty happy with that. Where are the rest of the North Tipp-ites I wonder?

**celticlads** · 17/10/2008, 9:26 PM

Any truth in d rumour dat town only had 7 training last week.

**hooper74** · 17/10/2008, 10:05 PM

the outcome of the north v south clashes has to disappoint north league fans.....it really does,personally i ended up at the villa clodagh game and it was a total mismatch as was the saints v blackcastle which would be te game i would normally have been at,do north tipp have oscar traynor team?