Is there now a Big 3?

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Its a safer bet picking a horse in the Grand National and putting your money on that.

See Shels for an example of what happens when you nearly, but not quite, make the CL.
Should be fun digging up the thread where the Bohs fans repeatedly claimed they can't lose out of that deal.

I`ll save you the bother. If Carroll pulls out of the deal we get to keep the deposit and retain our ground.

You will have a mountain of debt built up from the way Bohs is run, which i m sure you would have to admit is poor even from LOI standards. I can seee this ending in tears for Bohs.

The €4 million in the bank says otherwise

When we won the league in 2005 Shels & Drogs both had larger budgets. It is only after that win that our budgets have got out of control a little due to players looking for & being paid more money.

I think the only club to retain its squad in recent years after winning the league was Shels because they were spending a lot of money to keep the players.

I don't know how out budget compares with Drogs, Bohs & Pats but our crowds are almost double theirs. We may not match the numbers of 2005 but if we top of the league crowds would increase a lot. We also always get good crowds for Europe.

Originally Posted by Réiteoir

The €4 million in the bank says otherwise

Won't cover your losses form the last 3 seasons and you are paying back a €4 million loan? Hardly an ideal situation, worrying times in D7

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

I`ll save you the bother. If Carroll pulls out of the deal we get to keep the deposit and retain our ground.

Would the deposit be worth more than the dip in property values? A lot of people in similar situations have let the deposits go on apartments/houses they have bought of plan if the selling price has fallen more than the deposit.

Originally Posted by londonred

Would the deposit be worth more than the dip in property values?

Irrelevant if they have the deposit and keep the property.

In fairness to Bohs, if the deal does collapse, they do seem to come out of it very well with non-refundable deposits. But as Rovers Maniac noted, E4m will only last a couple of years with the losses the club are racking up.

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

But as Rovers Maniac noted, E4m will only last a couple of years with the losses the club are racking up.

IS it not gone already? Might've took that up wrong somewhere.

Also is the court case with Albion still going?

Dunno; they seem to find a bit more to sell off and keep afloat.

Bottom line, if it's not gone now, E4m will be gone in a few years.

Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac

Won't cover your losses form the last 3 seasons and you are paying back a €4 million loan? Hardly an ideal situation, worrying times in D7

were going to rack up millions of debt not pay anyone ,steal and not even pay our laundry bills then get bailed out by the council with a free stadium and still hold our heads up high and lecture other clubs

Speculation. Speculation. Speculation. I can see the vultures circling already with schadenfrued dripping from their beaks. No news and all of sudden a headline in a newspaper and a big black hole has opened up in anticipation of a big meal.

It's quite simple as things stand. Bohs are spending quite a lot of money. As are Cork. Pats. Drogheda. To a lesser extent Galway, Sligo, Derry. Everyone probably spending more money than they can afford given income.

To this point as far as I can make out in relation to Bohs, considering the usual guff I see on this MB regarding Fenlons 'spending' is that Fenlon has signed two players this season. Balance to that, we've released players like Rice for instance. Fenlon can't sign any players unless he gets rid of others that are already there, so we are in no less a precarious position than any other club in the league or even than we were last season.

That is not to say that we are not already overspending as such, but the glee with which some people seem to be predicting the demise of our great club is bordering on perverse.

Sounds like something higgins would say.