Beecher Networks - Web Development, Hosting & Domains
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 52

Thread: Is there now a Big 3?

  1. #21
    Youth Team
    Joined
    Dec 2002
    Location
    drogheda
    Posts
    131
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post
    get back to me when your league and all Ireland champions
    we looked from Montrose to Swords, from swords to Montrose and from Montrose to Swords again but already it was impossible to spot UCDs right winger

  2. #22
    Now with extra sauce! Dodge's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Insomnia
    Posts
    23,528
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    663
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,676
    Thanked in
    1,454 Posts
    When my league and all Ireland champions what?

    Easy joke...


    Point I was making was that their obviously won't be a dominating top 3 as the fisrt post suggests as one of them is 5th, but cotinue to miss the main point and take offence at facts
    54,321 sold - wws will never die - ***
    ---
    New blog if anyone's interested - http://loihistory.wordpress.com/
    LOI section on balls.ie - http://balls.ie/league-of-ireland/

  3. #23
    Youth Team
    Joined
    Dec 2002
    Location
    drogheda
    Posts
    131
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post
    the facts are that we are 4 off 3rd and 3 off 7th,
    the fact is that we are near the top 3,
    the fact is that you should have put a full stop (period) after 'fact'.

    as for the main point, you are right (with the exception of what I pointed out).
    we looked from Montrose to Swords, from swords to Montrose and from Montrose to Swords again but already it was impossible to spot UCDs right winger

  4. #24
    garyderry
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by dancinpants View Post
    Do I have to explain the word "mostly" to you?

    Care to give me more examples in that squad where we used "the money" to buy that league title?

    Dont talk ****e, we were big spenders under felix, and almost went to the wire
    over it, only for fans going door to door collecting money and doing anything and everything the taxman woukd have shut us down for good.

    No way did we do that on the cheap

  5. #25
    Seasoned Pro holidaysong's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Dublin 9
    Posts
    4,100
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    125
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    140
    Thanked in
    101 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    I'd guess the last team that won the league without being one the top 2/3 spenders in the league was Pats in 1990. Ever since then money has talked (in pretty much every league in the world
    Dundalk in 1995 would be sooner than that.
    www.dundalkfc.com

    Colin Scanlon - hero!

  6. #26
    Football hure MariborKev's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Derry
    Posts
    2,749
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    10
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    211
    Thanked in
    89 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by garyderry View Post
    Dont talk ****e, we were big spenders under felix, and almost went to the wire
    over it, only for fans going door to door collecting money and doing anything and everything the taxman woukd have shut us down for good.

    No way did we do that on the cheap
    Have to agree, Diamond came in and bankrolled us.
    Tifo poles, sausage rolls and a few goals.

    The Brandy Blogs, back and blogging the 2010 season

  7. #27
    Seasoned Pro OneRedArmy's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2004
    Location
    London-Derry-Dublin
    Posts
    4,893
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    84
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    140
    Thanked in
    82 Posts
    Given the wealth invested in the Big 3 at the minute is property driven, I don't think its any more sustainable that previous investments in Derry, Shels (chuckle) and other teams.

    Lots of people think they've found the Holy Grail, Shels certainly came closest, but its always ended in tears. No reason to think the current investments are any different.

  8. #28
    Reserves dortie's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Derry City / Doire / 6 Counties
    Posts
    972
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Given the wealth invested in the Big 3 at the minute is property driven, I don't think its any more sustainable that previous investments in Derry, Shels (chuckle) and other teams.

    Lots of people think they've found the Holy Grail, Shels certainly came closest, but its always ended in tears. No reason to think the current investments are any different.
    Kev nobody in the league seems to think we are not spending at present, far from the truth, the wage bill at Derry isnt far off 'the top 3'. Average players at Derry are on a grand a week.
    Go lí cúnna ifrinn do thóin bheagmhaitheasach

  9. #29
    Seasoned Pro OneRedArmy's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2004
    Location
    London-Derry-Dublin
    Posts
    4,893
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    84
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    140
    Thanked in
    82 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by dortie View Post
    Kev nobody in the league seems to think we are not spending at present, far from the truth, the wage bill at Derry isnt far off 'the top 3'. Average players at Derry are on a grand a week.
    I agree and our investment is no more sustainable than anybody elses.

    There's only so many draw tickets you can sell.

  10. #30
    Like the Fonz. Only a dog. Mr A's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2004
    Location
    In the gutter, but looking at the stars
    Posts
    11,554
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,761
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,355
    Thanked in
    1,550 Posts
    So on the face of it, probably only UCD and maybe Bray are actually operating in a sustainable manner at the moment. This season could yet descend into farce as more and more clubs hit financial bother. At the moment at least one quarter of the clubs in the premier are in some level of trouble.
    #NeverStopNotGivingUp

  11. #31
    First Team lofty9's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    1,208
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    17
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    63
    Thanked in
    43 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by dortie View Post
    Kev nobody in the league seems to think we are not spending at present, far from the truth, the wage bill at Derry isnt far off 'the top 3'. Average players at Derry are on a grand a week.
    Then add what the manager and coaching staff are on!

    We've had the top two at the Brandywell in the last week and the crowds have been pathetic. I honestly don't see how we can sustain it.
    As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls

  12. #32
    Formerly: londonred dublinred's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Fingal
    Posts
    1,014
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    3
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    20
    Thanked in
    9 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    So on the face of it, probably only UCD and maybe Bray are actually operating in a sustainable manner at the moment. This season could yet descend into farce as more and more clubs hit financial bother. At the moment at least one quarter of the clubs in the premier are in some level of trouble.
    A lot of clubs are in bother the 65% rule has been got around by the clubs in was trying to cap and is putting clubs who own their grounds and whos only major ourtlay is wages in bother , i agree with the earlier post that wages for average players are at riduculous levels,some players are demanding moves because certain clubs can treble their existing package yet still operate within the 65% .

  13. #33
    Football hure MariborKev's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Derry
    Posts
    2,749
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    10
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    211
    Thanked in
    89 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by lofty9 View Post
    Then add what the manager and coaching staff are on!

    We've had the top two at the Brandywell in the last week and the crowds have been pathetic. I honestly don't see how we can sustain it.
    Watch it. Any more questions like that and you'll be branded a knocker by posters on dcc.com......
    Tifo poles, sausage rolls and a few goals.

    The Brandy Blogs, back and blogging the 2010 season

  14. #34
    First Team dancinpants's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    2,304
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    12
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    27
    Thanked in
    18 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by garyderry View Post
    Dont talk ****e, we were big spenders under felix, and almost went to the wire
    over it, only for fans going door to door collecting money and doing anything and everything the taxman woukd have shut us down for good.

    No way did we do that on the cheap
    Which playing staff members were we payin' a fortune to that year? Curran? Higgsy? Pizza? Beckett? R Coyle? Semple? Mohan? Dykes? Who? I'm intrigued now.

  15. #35
    First Team lofty9's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    1,208
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    17
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    63
    Thanked in
    43 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by dancinpants View Post
    Which playing staff members were we payin' a fortune to that year? Curran? Higgsy? Pizza? Beckett? R Coyle? Semple? Mohan? Dykes? Who? I'm intrigued now.
    I'd say it had more to do with the low Saturday night crowds ,therefore a lack of income. We really were poorly supported that year.
    As Irishmen we dilute our sense of nation by depending on the English to bring us our balls

  16. #36
    Reserves dortie's Avatar
    Joined
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Derry City / Doire / 6 Counties
    Posts
    972
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by lofty9 View Post

    We've had the top two at the Brandywell in the last week and the crowds have been pathetic. I honestly don't see how we can sustain it.

    Our crowds are still much healthier than clubs paying players double the salary though.
    Go lí cúnna ifrinn do thóin bheagmhaitheasach

  17. #37
    FORMERLY: City till I Die Aaron's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Derry
    Posts
    1,971
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    130
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    105
    Thanked in
    74 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Maribor View Post
    Have to agree, Diamond came in and bankrolled us.
    I dont understand why multi-millionaires like him and Phillip O'Doherty dont plough abit of their money into the club and make the club full-time on all levels.

    If we had the money we could employ commercial and marketing directors and improve the clubs perception in the city. Money to improve the squad and get to the CL group stages. Its not to say the top teams in the league are a million miles away from it.

    With CL group stages comes crowds, merchandise will be sold and the clubs profile will drastically rise. I know it all sounds abit far-fetched but it is possible. This goes for any clubs in the league.

    Derry is big enough to attract 15,000 to games if the above all happened. Add in the fact that we get supporters from outside the City, like Strabane, Limavady etc..

    Its not to say the above 2 havnt got the money to make this possible.

  18. #38
    Banned Rovers Maniac's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    1,343
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by City till I Die View Post
    I dont understand why multi-millionaires like him and Phillip O'Doherty dont plough abit of their money into the club and make the club full-time on all levels.

    If we had the money we could employ commercial and marketing directors and improve the clubs perception in the city. Money to improve the squad and get to the CL group stages. Its not to say the top teams in the league are a million miles away from it.

    With CL group stages comes crowds, merchandise will be sold and the clubs profile will drastically rise. I know it all sounds abit far-fetched but it is possible. This goes for any clubs in the league.

    Derry is big enough to attract 15,000 to games if the above all happened. Add in the fact that we get supporters from outside the City, like Strabane, Limavady etc..

    Its not to say the above 2 havnt got the money to make this possible.
    God it's oh so simple ! Can't see in reason your blueprint won't work.

  19. #39
    Formerly: londonred dublinred's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Fingal
    Posts
    1,014
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    3
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    20
    Thanked in
    9 Posts
    Could be back to big 2 as the dalymounT developer Liam Carroll is reported to have cashflow problems.

  20. #40
    Seasoned Pro OneRedArmy's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2004
    Location
    London-Derry-Dublin
    Posts
    4,893
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    84
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    140
    Thanked in
    82 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by City till I Die View Post
    I dont understand why multi-millionaires like him and Phillip O'Doherty dont plough abit of their money into the club and make the club full-time on all levels.

    If we had the money we could employ commercial and marketing directors and improve the clubs perception in the city. Money to improve the squad and get to the CL group stages. Its not to say the top teams in the league are a million miles away from it.

    With CL group stages comes crowds, merchandise will be sold and the clubs profile will drastically rise. I know it all sounds abit far-fetched but it is possible. This goes for any clubs in the league.

    Derry is big enough to attract 15,000 to games if the above all happened. Add in the fact that we get supporters from outside the City, like Strabane, Limavady etc..

    Its not to say the above 2 havnt got the money to make this possible.
    Its a safer bet picking a horse in the Grand National and putting your money on that.

    See Shels for an example of what happens when you nearly, but not quite, make the CL.
    Quote Originally Posted by Londonred
    Could be back to big 2 as the dalymounT developer Liam Carroll is reported to have cashflow problems..
    Should be fun digging up the thread where the Bohs fans repeatedly claimed they can't lose out of that deal.
    Last edited by OneRedArmy; 03/07/2008 at 4:08 PM.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •