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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkCut View Post
    Armenia!!!!!!!!!!! Mate who would you rather play against to gain experience Armenia or Crystal Palace (8 full internationals in their first team squad including 3 Irish)
    I hear Armenia have one or two international players in their squad too

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    I saw him play this season and thought he was a diving, over-rated hack, we all have opinions but thankfully there are better criteria for selection than what a few fans of a certain player think
    You shouldn't let your bitterness cloud your judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pateen View Post
    Unfortunatly a bit off yet but then it can always be down to a break of a ball and a top team off form.

    Colin Healy it would have to be for me. Doesnt get half the praise he deserves
    Yeah but he was an International player already, or so I think.

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    IRELAND boss Giovanni Trapattoni has promised to keep an eye on the performance of Irish clubs competing in European competition this summer.

    Last year, eircom League teams played 12 times in Europe but the then senior team boss Steve Staunton failed to attend a single one on his way to a failed Euro 2008 qualification campaign.

    But Trapattoni, speaking before a fundraising event for Waterford United yesterday, says that he and his coaching staff will track the European fortunes of Bohemians (Intertoto Cup), Drogheda United (Champions League), Cork City and St Patrick's Athletic (UEFA Cup).

    "We plan to go and watch the Irish clubs play in European competition," the Italian legend said.

    "We had spoken about it before but the fixtures were only announced on Tuesday, now that we know where the clubs will be playing, I plan to have the games watched.

    "Between myself, Marco Tardelli and Liam Brady we will watch those Irish clubs play."

    Bohs play Latvian side FK Riga in the second round of the Intertoto Cup next weekend, while St Pats also face Latvian opposition (JFK Olimps) in the UEFA Cup.
    Might be a chance yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavo View Post
    I hear Armenia have one or two international players in their squad too
    I was making the point that even players at Championship level get to play regularly against internation players. Not just one off matches against the mighty champions of Armenia, Liechenstein, Wales or other such footballing strongholds once a year when they somehow manage to get beaten then cry for the rest of the season because the big bad international manager won't give them a chance. I ask again who in the EL (Which by the way I love, I attended almost every LTFC game for the 4 years I lived there home and away) would replace the likes of Given, Mcgeady, Duff, Keane the 2 Reids etc.. The majority of the best players in the EL have already tried and failed in England, would you really feel comfortable cheering for them as they walk out to face Italy????
    Help something bit me!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sullanefc View Post
    You shouldn't let your bitterness cloud your judgement.
    The bitterness at watching him blatantly dive so Cork's overpaid neverhavebeens could get by a part time team with one of their worst squads ever in a cup competition? Why not when it's true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebus View Post
    The bitterness at watching him blatantly dive so Cork's overpaid neverhavebeens could get by a part time team with one of their worst squads ever in a cup competition? Why not when it's true?
    Now you are using his wage to bash him. Surely not the criteria to judge a player??

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    Is Fahey the lad at St Pats? If so, they r just on setanta so ill have a butchers,,,,,,,,
    I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior View Post
    Is Fahey the lad at St Pats? If so, they r just on setanta so ill have a butchers,,,,,,,,
    Did you watch it? Fahey got man of the match.

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    Hey, if that above quote is correct & Trap is true to his word that he will monitor the EL teams, then that's fair enough. So long as we know that the managers are genuinely looking at our native league, I'll be happy even if the answer is a "no". I don't think the answer should be "no", given the depths we dug to make a squad a while back, but that's a different matter altogether. But the previous complete ignoring of the league was bad form, so at least that seems to have gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Charlie View Post
    Did you watch it? Fahey got man of the match.
    Yeah I did, and he was probably the best player on the park, looked a decent player.

    Though that would have to have BIG caviate, in that Finn Harps were absolute muck and didnt put up any opposition, no closing down, plenty of time on the ball, I might even have looked a midfield maestro myself against Finn Harps!!

    Though to be fair, you can only play against whats in front of you - and he was the best player on the pitch. Ill try and watch a few more games on Setanta to keep an eye on him and any of the other EL lads that are mentioned as the cream of the crop.....
    I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?

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    Typical the level of debate here from non LOI fans.

    I would hope that every player is assessed on their merits and not dismissed just because of who they play for.

    How do the LOI bashers square Steve Bull being picked for England with the logic they employ here?

    Remember, the same feckers who are down on the LOI missed out on the chance to see Roy Keane, Paul McGrath, Kevin Moran, S Doyle etc (at a knock-down price in their own country) because they couldn't possibly be any good......I mean, if they were, they'd already be playing in Britain......which reveals a lot about their knowledge of football in their own country................

    Why are we still giving these people the time of day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feech View Post
    How do the LOI bashers square Steve Bull being picked for England with the logic they employ here?
    I don't really care who England pick so I see no point in "squaring" any inclusion in their squad, fact remains when Steve Bull was playing and scoring goals he was doing so at a higher level than the Eircom League
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    in all fairness its a disgrace that we dont call up players from our own league to the national team. now i know that most eloi players wont (and shouldnt) make a starting line up against italy, which isnt the point longford. but i think their should be a quota for players playing in our home league. maybe trap should call up 2/3 home based players to every squad. something like that could go a long way to helping the image and p[layers playing here

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipsahoy View Post
    in all fairness its a disgrace that we dont call up players from our own league to the national team. now i know that most eloi players wont (and shouldnt) make a starting line up against italy, which isnt the point longford. but i think their should be a quota for players playing in our home league. maybe trap should call up 2/3 home based players to every squad. something like that could go a long way to helping the image and p[layers playing here
    I'd prefer to see players called up on their own merits, rather than because they have to be in the squad.
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    Nothing more than tokenism and wouldn't help the players, the clubs or the league

    if they're good enough they'll be picked
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    A quota of eL players in the senior squad has been mentioned a few times on the board. Most people agree that if they are going to get into the squad, it should be on their own merits and achievements, rather than because they have to be there.
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    This is a ridiculous argument, its the manager's job to pick the best squad available to him and right now the best Irish squad available doesn't feature any LOI players, I'm not saying this is always gonna be the case but right now there are players in the UK (Jay Tabb/Keith Andrews/Michael Doyle/Patrick Cregg/Paddy McCarthy/Willo Flood/Stephen McPhail for beginners) who are better than LOI standard and they don't get anywhere near the squad, why should a player from the LOI be chosen ahead of them solely on the basis that he plays in Ireland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangball View Post
    This is a ridiculous argument, its the manager's job to pick the best squad available to him and right now the best Irish squad available doesn't feature any LOI players, I'm not saying this is always gonna be the case but right now there are players in the UK (Jay Tabb/Keith Andrews/Michael Doyle/Patrick Cregg/Paddy McCarthy/Willo Flood/Stephen McPhail for beginners) who are better than LOI standard and they don't get anywhere near the squad, why should a player from the LOI be chosen ahead of them solely on the basis that he plays in Ireland?
    Who do these guys play with? Are they first teamers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunderlandBohs View Post
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    Daryl Murphy had a two good season with us. Chipped in with a few important goals. Sure many of the current squad aren't good enough for 'mid epl team'. ie Paul McShane, Anthony Stokes to name just two.
    Are you saying Paul McShane wouldn't interest Eddie Gormley?

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