News sources only please... :)

**A face** · 29/04/2003, 6:47 PM

Does Soccer Central have to go into the database ??

**soccerc** · 29/04/2003, 7:06 PM

Originally posted by A face
Does Soccer Central have to go into the database ??

Why NOT?

**dahamsta** · 29/04/2003, 7:10 PM

And yes, it does. It's a news source, I didn't specify a quality rating.

**soccerc** · 29/04/2003, 7:12 PM

Originally posted by Vetinari
And yes, it does. It's a news source, I didn't specify a quality rating.

Top Quality and original..................maybe that mitigates against it!

Neil · 29/04/2003, 7:21 PM

Soccercentral is the only real news source as far as I can see.
Eleven-a-side is handy but they have no contacts and just grab stuff from the tabloids.

**dahamsta** · 29/04/2003, 7:37 PM

Originally posted by soccerc
Top Quality and original..................maybe that mitigates against it!

It was a joke soccerc.

adam

**dahamsta** · 26/08/2003, 11:24 PM

Passed this by in my travels, said I'd drag it back up since Foot.ie News is back on track again:

As it happens, SoccerCentral can't go in the database, because they've disabled selection on the site for some reason. (Try selecting text in any modern browser.) This will preclude our faithful news hounds from posting links to stories on their site.

I could get around this in a shot by scraping the site or simply proxying their site onto Foot.ie for the editors, but I don't think I'll bother to be honest. I can understand the need to protect copyrighted material, but this strikes me as just plain silly.

adam

**Ref** · 27/08/2003, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Vetinari
Passed this by in my travels, said I'd drag it back up since Foot.ie News is back on track again:

As it happens, SoccerCentral can't go in the database, because they've disabled selection on the site for some reason. (Try selecting text in any modern browser.) This will preclude our faithful news hounds from posting links to stories on their site.

I could get around this in a shot by scraping the site or simply proxying their site onto Foot.ie for the editors, but I don't think I'll bother to be honest. I can understand the need to protect copyrighted material, but this strikes me as just plain silly.

adam

ah just view source, copy and paste.

thats what i do.

**dahamsta** · 27/08/2003, 10:59 AM

Of course people can do that Ref, but we're trying to keep this as simple as possible, we're trying to set it up in such a way that posting a story to Foot.ie is part of the natural flow of a users browsing -- see a story people might be interested in, hit the Foot.ie News button on your toolbar, copy and paste the first couple of paras from the story (the title and URL will be prefilled where possible), hit Submit and go back to browsing. There's a flow there that's going to be borked if you insert "hit view source on the page, look for the content section, copy the first coupe of paras, take out the html", etc, etc. Like I said, it's just silly.

adam

**Ref** · 27/08/2003, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by soccerc
Why NOT?

they've disabled selection on the site for some reason. (Try selecting text in any modern browser.) This will preclude our faithful news hounds from posting links to stories on their site.

childish really imo.

**A face** · 27/08/2003, 12:07 PM

I dont see anything wrong with the copy and pasting of news when a link is given to the origin and full credit is given for this.

The way it is right now could be described as "being difficult"

**Macy** · 27/08/2003, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by A face
The way it is right now could be described as "being difficult"

Or making sure their site gets the hit to keep the advertisers..... Don't think it's deliberately against foot.....

**dahamsta** · 27/08/2003, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by A face
I dont see anything wrong with the copy and pasting of news when a link is given to the origin and full credit is given for this.

The link for each story goes directly to the site, and each story has the source listed with a link to their homepage.

Originally posted by Macy
Or making sure their site gets the hit to keep the advertisers.....

We're not proxying their news. All we publish is the story title, a link to the story and 255 characters of context. To read the full story, the user has to go to their website, so they still get the adview.

I'm not saying it's deliberately against Foot.ie by the way, we haven't even launched the news system yet and the only person who posts news here extensively is face.

And I can understand their reason for doing it too. The problem is that the logic behind it is misguided. Why /shouldn't/ people quote from news stories in context? Where does it stop, should we stop telling each other about the stories they publish too?

adam

**Macy** · 27/08/2003, 12:49 PM

Didn't mean here adam (that was closed off very early if I remember correctly), but we've all seen copy and paste jobs on other boards with no link or anything.... Don't necessarily disagree with anything you've said, just a reaction to A Face and his typical overreaction...

**dahamsta** · 27/08/2003, 12:57 PM

John from SC's been on and he reckons the noselect code was removed months ago (it wasn't, but it is now) and that it's no problem for us to aggregate stories from his site. Fair dues John, thanks. We'll be on about an XML feed in a month or two.

adam