eircom League in Europe - 2008

[sligoman]

It works for European results but not the domestic season.

[John83]

Congrats Drogs you have done the league proud.

I'm posting to take issue with your thread title. This result no more proves that the summer season works than Bohs loss proved it doesn't.

[kingdomkerry]

And we need to do well in Europe. When the breakthrough comes ie CL or Uefa group stages it will be massive for the domestic game.

[Mr A]

And we need to do well in Europe. When the breakthrough comes ie CL or Uefa group stages it will be massive for the domestic game.

It'll be massive for the club that does it- will more people watch Derry if Cork make the UEFA cup though? I very much doubt it.

And tonight could also be taken to prove that spending twice your turnover on players wages is a really brilliant idea.

This is a great night for Drogheda, and fair play to them, but this can't just be attributed to summer football.

[deecay]

Great night and all that but I doubt they will go any further.I prefer winter football

[CuanaD]

UEFA coefficiants:
from seasons 99/00 to 03/04:
points: 0.333; 1.666; 0.666; 1.666; 0.333 = 3.164 total - ranked us 40th out of 52 nations

from seasons 04/05 to 08/09:
points: 1.333; 1.833; 2.833; 1.000; 1.166(so far this year) = 8.165 total - ranks us 32nd out of 53 nations.
5 years in a row where we have had teams progressing through at least 1 round in Europe - & last years results, while they were relatively bad (most of us relate that to Shels implosion) were still better than 99/00, 01/02, 02/03 & 03/04.

Extra games in europe, extra gates in europe, extra money from uefa for each round progressed(sometimes TV cash too) - all this adds up to progression to me & I'd put a lot of that down to the summer season fitness advantage.

[CuanaD]

I'm posting to take issue with your thread title. This result no more proves that the summer season works than Bohs loss proved it doesn't.

Bohs easily won their first round
lost on away goals in their second
3 wins in 4 legs
still far better results than we were accustomed to >5 years ago

[Mr A]

And how many full time teams did we have then?

[CuanaD]

Can someone post up the latest co-efficient table?

Won't be updated till tomorrow - 7 games still going at the moment - 1 still in it's 1st half:

http://www.livescore.com/default.dll?page=home


But our 5-year details are looking a lot healthier than they used to anyway:

UEFA coefficiants:
from seasons 99/00 to 03/04:
points: 0.333; 1.666; 0.666; 1.666; 0.333 = 3.164 total - ranked us 40th out of 52 nations

from seasons 04/05 to 08/09:
points: 1.333; 1.833; 2.833; 1.000; 1.166(so far this year) = 8.165 total - ranks us 32nd out of 53 nations so far.

[brianw82]

Can. Worms. Open.

[CuanaD]

actually only 4 games still going now - i see IFK Gothenburg won 4:0 & 9:0 on agg - didn't Derry beat them 1:0home & 1:0away only 2 years ago?

[Dodge]

And how many full time teams did we have then?

IMO this is a far, far more important point

[bennocelt]

Won't be updated till tomorrow - 7 games still going at the moment - 1 still in it's 1st half:

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dont know about that, Bert usually has it updated fairly quickly

here is the link anyway
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...crank2009.html

[passerrby]

it proves that drogs have a good squad no more .. and i support summer football

well done drogs

[Terry]

dont know about that, Bert usually has it updated fairly quickly

here is the link anyway
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/...crank2009.html

its updated

[diamond]

can i be the first drog to milk it...................thanks

[skitz3]

How many pointless, idiotic threads started by "Rovers Maniac" are we going to have to endure before someone says enough.

Why did we need a new thread for this, we already had a thread where the OP could have went.

[pete]

Congrats Drogs you have done the league proud. Beating an team from Estonia is a big deal and i hope you milk it.

Estonia are ranked a full 10 places below Ireland so I would not get carried away. LOI teams are expected as seeded teams to progress to 2nd round. Two wins was a bonus though.

Summer football is important for the early rounds of Europe where most teams have summer leagues. We would be at big disadvantage with old format. If LOI teams get seeded summer football will be less important.

[Sheridan]

Both equally important IMO. Summer football is unambiguously a good thing for European results. Anyone remember Shels playing Brondby about five or six years ago? They'd signed a few (good) players in the close season but played, understandably, like a bunch of fellas who'd never met before and got tonked by a team that weren't much better than them. And that's before you get to the all-important fitness aspect.

[oriel]

Im not convinced it is working, summer football has been OK euro results wise, but we`re still not consistent enough (granted Cork and Pats still have to play)

Attendances are the benchmark and these are only marginally up and very poor overall

Drogs and Pats for eg, did they each attract 1,500 at a recent home game (not the Cork and Rovers games)

Maybe the good results in this years euro games will improve crowds, but its something which must be addressed, clubs attracting 2,000 on avg and paying out 40k a week in wages is pure and utter madness