QuoteWhat time does the Pats game KO at?
Live coverage from Cork but not of Pats' game as far as I know.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
What time does the Pats game KO at?
4.00pm irish time i think.Originally Posted by holidaysong
great hoping there would be.
Good results for Drogheda and Llanelli. Levadia are a reasonable side with plenty of internationals (yes OK Estonian ones, but they're still not bad) and Ventspils had a Georgian fella who was in the team that beat Scotland. These teams are better than a lot of people give them credit for.
Linfield unlucky but were never going to progress with that draw. They have been unlucky with both the last two years in the draw.
dcfcsteve, did you watch Llanelli on S4C?
"Life is like a hair on a toilet seat. Sooner or later you are bound to get pi$$ed off."
"In this league, a draw is sometimes as good as a win" - Steve Morison
I caught the end of the llanelli game on S4C alright. Welsh sounds nothing like Irishespecially the effort Big John Hartson was making! good result for Llanelli not conceding the away goal, and a great finish for their goal, it was a tight enough angle
Havin a weekend away is quite frankly,lettin ur team mates down!
The effort Big John was making sounded more like English than any other language!
"Life is like a hair on a toilet seat. Sooner or later you are bound to get pi$$ed off."
"In this league, a draw is sometimes as good as a win" - Steve Morison
According to this http://www.futbol24.com Riga are down to 10 men after 8 mins
absolutely great performance in the 2nd half by the drogs. cahill, baker and an out of position byrne really showed their class and ran the game for us. robbo did well but as usual was wasteful. i reckon if we had of got AT least one more goal we could go through but now i think they'll make mince meat of us next week. its a shame cause we can beat them, but as someone said earlier, i dont trust them to play to their potential.
Vetra and Suduva both got 1-0 home wins in the UEFA today, against Viking and TNS respectively. TNS hung on until the 89th minute. Latvia lost obviously; Metalurgs play Glentoran tonight.
Ok - my response is that its even more full of crap than the first one.
and you still dont seem to know what moral victory means despite mandrake and dcfcsteve spelling it out for you.
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Very unimpressed with the results so far this year.
Bohs going out to Riga was a disaster!!! Pats only winning 1-0 against 10 men from the bottom team in Latvia ??? Cork coming from behind at home to draw 2-2 and Drogheda messing up at home leaving themselves open to that away goal.
I was expecting more from our league this year.
The four teams we had in europe were the four big players!! They should be coming through these games with some class. You can see in other games teams are winning 6,7 and 8 nil against weaker teams.
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You realise us and Pats were unseeded right?
Now I agree they are weaker teams but 6/7/8 nil weaker? There's a reason they were seeded ahead of us and that their leagues are ahead of ours in the last 5 years.
Dont get me wrong, Im disappointed in our result, but to say we should be coming through games against teams seeded higher than us 'with class' is a bit naive to say the least.
I think some people over-estimate our teams abilities.
Pats won away from home despite playing badly by their own admission. Drogs may have been the big four last year but have yet to hit form this year and seem out of sorts. We've no right winger(which hurt us badly) and are poor defensively(which cost us tonight).
Now I expect EL teams to be coming through the first round(barring a horrible draw) but people who expect it to be easy are fooling themselves, and maybe need more realistic expectations. Only 5 seasons ago we got 0.333 overall, last season we only got 1, we're already on .832 already with at least 3 games to play.
The results haven't been outstanding, but they have been good.
Didn't expect Cork to win through easily but at home they should have come away with a win and give themselves a better chance of going through.
Pats played the bottom team in Latvia who are down to 10 men ?? Only in the league as the number of teams was expanded last season and they didn't get relegated for finishing bottom.
Big four as in wages. I'm sure some championship clubs are not paying the wages Pats are at present!
Bohs being dumped out by Riga is a disaster,, simple as that really.
Having 0.832 after 3 games is ok but I can only see a Pats win as another 0.333. Will Drogheda and Cork win away from home ? Then Pats could get a dodgy team in the 2nd round.
Cork should have won at home.
The results in europe should be better considering the money we pay our players. We don't get value for money here at present. I still have hope, I still believe that Cork Drogheda and Pats are good enough to win the 2nd leg of their games but all too often I've been left wondering where it went wrong, we just don't seem to be able to put a good run together. Look at the teams around us now as we're placed in 32nd, they have teams capable of winning through two rounds in europe, we still seem to be happy with getting past one round.
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i think the results have been ok.
bohs won 3 out of 4 games in fairness, should have went through. no uefa points available until they got through intertoto so not to disapointed there.
Drogs can go through i think out in estonia.
Pats will defo go through and i think cork are well capable of beating haka. cork are well set up to score goals on away trips. done it before and they battered haka in the second half last night. so all in all im quite pleased the way things are going in europe. there really is no easy teams now, well very few. we need to start thinking positive about away trips aswell i think, the ties are over two legs so we should remember this.
City actually did very well for a team that only played 45 mins.
If they play for maybe 60-70 mins in the second leg we might have a better chance. God forbid they actually play for the full 90 and fulfil their end of the bargain. Will they be leaving half their weeks wages behind now as well?
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
I don't know why people are getting so down at the moment< the EL teams are doing alright.
Bohs were in the intertwobob cup and yes they disappointed but they were never going to beat Elfsborg, and they might have actually meesed up our co efficients if they qualified.
Drogheda did very well to turn their game around. I fancy them getting a result away from home and progressing in the tie. Whats the problem there?
St Pats won away from home and still people are moaning. Jesus. Should win at home and further increase the co's
Cork City have it all to do, but at least they didn't lose, and if Matthews is brave I wouldn't be surprised if they also nicked a goal or two out in Finland, why not?
3 games - 2 wins and a draw and no team is def out with all to play for in the second legs.
We should improve on last years co efficients, and a few nations above us looks vulnerable (Latvia, Lithuania, slovenia, poland, finland, - even austria lose 7.5 next year!!!).
I think our euro performances are improving all the time, and the stats would confirm this.
So i dont know why people should bash our league just yet, a lot of games are still to be played
How so?
You're being a bit unrealistic I think - 2 wins and a draw and you think that it's all a disaster?
Foot.ie's entire existence is predicated on the average idiot's inability to ignore other idiots
I don't think I'm being unrealistic.
Going on results and the respective league placing Riga are not as good as Bohs simple as that. Anyone at the game seems to confirm they were not as good as Bohs yet Bohs lost.
I'm hearing loads of if we did this if we had of done that ,, etc
Facts to me are that too often we fail to perform in europe when we have the chance. Don't fool yourself into thinking the teams we play are full of superstars. I'd be amazed if the wages at any of those clubs comes close to the ones at the likes of Pats.
It's time now to step up and knock these clubs out every year!
The draw could not have been better for us to be honest and I just think we might be wasting this.
However, as I said I do believe that we are good enough and playing well we'll win through but the 3 managers at Cork Pats and Drogheda leave me with very little confidence.
Maybe,, seen as wages have gone through the roof and the quality of player at the top clubs is getting better each year it's time we brought in a manager to match the talent of the footballer. Seems like we are still on the same manager merry go round for the past 10 years.
Maybe the key to unlocking europe is in a manager with plenty of european experience.
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