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    Quote Originally Posted by see's it View Post
    you never seem to talk about the games thats all
    whats that got to do with it
    My other team is spurs i have been 3 times does that make me less of a fan than a fan who makes it to more games?
    The answer is NO
    i go when i can (very rarely)
    but i trawl the sites for info and watche the matches on sky
    i don't go to every game but i follow L37 thats my team
    if this guy goes or not he is still entitled to his opinon about the team and who they sign or not
    we all are

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    Quote Originally Posted by waylanderj View Post
    whats that got to do with it
    My other team is spurs i have been 3 times does that make me less of a fan than a fan who makes it to more games?
    The answer is NO
    i go when i can (very rarely)
    but i trawl the sites for info and watche the matches on sky
    i don't go to every game but i follow L37 thats my team
    if this guy goes or not he is still entitled to his opinon about the team and who they sign or not
    we all are

    WTF has it to do with you and spurs.i go to the games for the football and i just noticed he never actually speaks about the matches...
    as for more of a fan are you 12?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyvale View Post
    No he may not be, but L37 are hardly Real Madrid or Man Utd are they??? spare me.

    The club should be trying to sign the best junior footballers in this town not the average ones, and until they do, they will stay in Div 1.
    Maybe they did try? and do you honestly think theres junior talent in this town that would see us promoted over sides like Shels and Dundalk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the only 1 View Post
    is shane tracey still with ye?
    no his loan deal is up.

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    [quote=waylanderj;974818]whats that got to do with it
    My other team is spurs
    Spurs fan! is there really such a thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by see's it View Post
    you never seem to talk about the games thats all
    not much to say in all fairness, its been a poor showing to date, with the exception of one or two games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkfish View Post
    Maybe they did try? and do you honestly think theres junior talent in this town that would see us promoted over sides like Shels and Dundalk?
    well didnt a depleted L37 just beat Dundalk??
    and to answer your first question, I think there is at least 3/4 players in this town playing junior football that are good enough to improve the TEAM, and there are a lot more junior players in town better than some of the players currently on the L37 SQUAD.

    I'm just giving my opinion thats all, after all, you cant tell me that the likes of Alan Barry, Keith Hartnett, Pat McGarry & Alan Carroll (to name a few) are not better than some of the players currently playing with L37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyvale View Post
    I'm just giving my opinion thats all, after all, you cant tell me that the likes of Alan Barry, Keith Hartnett, Pat McGarry & Alan Carroll (to name a few) are not better than some of the players currently playing with L37.
    They probably are. And what was to stop any of the aforementioned picking up the phone, or going to see Mike Kerley and asking him for a trial, or whether they stood a chance or not. Alan Barry and Keith Hartnett were there before, and to be honest both failed miserably. Pat McGarry won't commit to one sport as he loves the GAA too much and I don't know of this Carroll chap. The step up from Junior to EL is quite a big one, regardless what anyone else might tell you, moreso on the fitness side than anything else. Kerley has by and large opted for the youngest, fittest lads he can get that showed a bit of appetite and ambition. McGarry for all his ability obviously has no real ambition to concentrate on EL football alone, Hartnett and Barry both have attitude problems (in Hartnetts case he seems to think he's the be all and end all who loves Junior international caps).

    So saying Junior players have the ability is fine. I have seen legendary junior players in my day that would have set the League of Ireland alight...Christy Reddan, Pat Cunningham, Adrian Lipper to name but three. But they had neither the mentality nor the fitness levels required. Its the same story today with a lot of junior players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeSoap View Post
    They probably are. And what was to stop any of the aforementioned picking up the phone, or going to see Mike Kerley and asking him for a trial, or whether they stood a chance or not. Alan Barry and Keith Hartnett were there before, and to be honest both failed miserably. Pat McGarry won't commit to one sport as he loves the GAA too much and I don't know of this Carroll chap. The step up from Junior to EL is quite a big one, regardless what anyone else might tell you, moreso on the fitness side than anything else. Kerley has by and large opted for the youngest, fittest lads he can get that showed a bit of appetite and ambition. McGarry for all his ability obviously has no real ambition to concentrate on EL football alone, Hartnett and Barry both have attitude problems (in Hartnetts case he seems to think he's the be all and end all who loves Junior international caps).

    So saying Junior players have the ability is fine. I have seen legendary junior players in my day that would have set the League of Ireland alight...Christy Reddan, Pat Cunningham, Adrian Lipper to name but three. But they had neither the mentality nor the fitness levels required. Its the same story today with a lot of junior players.
    Yes but surely if Mike Kerley signed them, then he would need to use his man-management skills to get the best of out each player (isn't that what he is paid to do?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyvale View Post
    you cant tell me that the likes of Alan Barry, Keith Hartnett, Pat McGarry & Alan Carroll (to name a few) are not better than some of the players currently playing with L37.
    Of course they are but they either dont want to or will want a lot more money than our current squad are being paid, and the simple fact is that the so called 'better' junior players around the town have all tried senior soccer and have made litttle or no impact so why bother over streching an already tight budget for these players?

    As for beating Dundalk, as good as it was we're not chasing promotion, they still are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbeyvale View Post
    man-management skills
    Sadly lacking apparantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeSoap View Post
    They probably are. And what was to stop any of the aforementioned picking up the phone, or going to see Mike Kerley and asking him for a trial, or whether they stood a chance or not. Alan Barry and Keith Hartnett were there before, and to be honest both failed miserably. Pat McGarry won't commit to one sport as he loves the GAA too much and I don't know of this Carroll chap. The step up from Junior to EL is quite a big one, regardless what anyone else might tell you, moreso on the fitness side than anything else. Kerley has by and large opted for the youngest, fittest lads he can get that showed a bit of appetite and ambition. McGarry for all his ability obviously has no real ambition to concentrate on EL football alone, Hartnett and Barry both have attitude problems (in Hartnetts case he seems to think he's the be all and end all who loves Junior international caps).

    So saying Junior players have the ability is fine. I have seen legendary junior players in my day that would have set the League of Ireland alight...Christy Reddan, Pat Cunningham, Adrian Lipper to name but three. But they had neither the mentality nor the fitness levels required. Its the same story today with a lot of junior players.
    What a player he was...

    And I agree with what your saying about the junior lads. I think McGarry and Carroll would be great additions to the team but I dont think they would have the attitude for it.

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    Had a god given talent but had problems with the application side of the sport...gifted

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    Anyone on here ever see Pat Power play in his day? Passed away a couple of years ago? Great bloke... I heard he was a superb footballer in his day
    RIP Pat

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    Alan Barry isn't a fan of Mike Kerley. Keith Hartnett has had numerous opportunities to resign but has quite openly chosen junior international caps instead. Pat McGarry apparently offered to sign for the A team with a view to the senior squad but was turned down by Kerley. Unbelievable if true........Don't know anything about Alan Carroll. Not hearing good things about Mike Kerley's oddball management skills, I think we may have another NOC/Ski Magee on our hands.

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    why cos he wont accept junior standards at senior level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by see's it View Post
    why cos he wont accept junior standards at senior level?
    manjor/hayes,, ill say no more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeSoap View Post
    They probably are. And what was to stop any of the aforementioned picking up the phone, or going to see Mike Kerley and asking him for a trial, or whether they stood a chance or not. Alan Barry and Keith Hartnett were there before, and to be honest both failed miserably. Pat McGarry won't commit to one sport as he loves the GAA too much and I don't know of this Carroll chap. The step up from Junior to EL is quite a big one, regardless what anyone else might tell you, moreso on the fitness side than anything else. Kerley has by and large opted for the youngest, fittest lads he can get that showed a bit of appetite and ambition. McGarry for all his ability obviously has no real ambition to concentrate on EL football alone, Hartnett and Barry both have attitude problems (in Hartnetts case he seems to think he's the be all and end all who loves Junior international caps).

    So saying Junior players have the ability is fine. I have seen legendary junior players in my day that would have set the League of Ireland alight...Christy Reddan, Pat Cunningham, Adrian Lipper to name but three. But they had neither the mentality nor the fitness levels required. Its the same story today with a lot of junior players.
    sorry joe but you are doing these lads a terrible misservice there that cant go unchecked.bar carroll none of these lads have been asked to sign for l37 and in carrolls case he recieved 1 phonecall from mk which was,n followed up until recently.barry was treated very poorly by mk during his previous stint a few years ago,i wuldn,t be hartnetts biggest fan but both he and mcgarry are top junior players.the key here is MK,if he wants these players he should do everything he can to get them but whether he does or not his track record on signing players is very poor.i cant name a decent player he,s discovered or one he,s convinced..name or experienced....to sign for the clubs he,s managed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da bishop View Post
    sorry joe but you are doing these lads a terrible misservice there that cant go unchecked.bar carroll none of these lads have been asked to sign for l37 and in carrolls case he recieved 1 phonecall from mk which was,n followed up until recently.barry was treated very poorly by mk during his previous stint a few years ago,i wuldn,t be hartnetts biggest fan but both he and mcgarry are top junior players.the key here is MK,if he wants these players he should do everything he can to get them but whether he does or not his track record on signing players is very poor.i cant name a decent player he,s discovered or one he,s convinced..name or experienced....to sign for the clubs he,s managed.
    Keith Hartnett: Tried his hand at EL a few seasons ago. Wasn't good enough then, and nothing I've seen of him at junior level with Pike tells me he'd be any better this time round. He displays a hell of a lot of arrogance and lack of ambition combined when he refused to sign last season because he wanted to go to the Canaries on a Junior International junket. Enough said!!

    Alan Barry: Similar to Hartnett in that he tried the EL a few seasons ago, but never really did much. A bad injury later, with fitness concerns and the fact that he doesn't get on with the manager....Can be done without I think.

    Pat McGarry: Has the ability, but drinks too much and won't give up the GAA. Not whats required in an EL player.

    Its hard by the way to sign real talent, experienced or not when you're operating on a shoestring....Whatever gripes I've had with Mike Kerleys management style I decided to put on hold this season because of the predicament the club is is financially. Wins against Dundalk, Longford, and the resounding defeat of Danny Drews latest love interest on Friday night even have a cynic like me giving credit where its due.
    Last edited by joeSoap; 07/07/2008 at 2:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeSoap View Post
    Keith Hartnett: Tried his hand at EL a few seasons ago. Wasn't good enough then, and nothing I've seen of him at junior level with Pike tells me he'd be any better this time round. He displays a hell of a lot of arrogance and lack of ambition combined when he refused to sign last season because he wanted to go to the Canaries on a Junior International junket. Enough said!!

    Alan Barry: Similar to Hartnett in that he tried the EL a few seasons ago, but never really did much. A bad injury later, with fitness concerns and the fact that he doesn't get on with the manager....Can be done without I think.

    Pat McGarry: Has the ability, but drinks too much and won't give up the GAA. Not whats required in an EL player.

    Its hard by the way to sign real talent, experienced or not when you're operating on a shoestring....Whatever gripes I've had with Mike Kerleys management style I decided to put on hold this season because of the predicament the club is is financially. Wins against Dundalk, Longford, and the resounding defeat of Danny Drews latest love interest on Friday night even have a cynic like me giving credit where its due.

    Just out of curiousity,,,,,,how many times have you seen Keith Hartnett play this season???

    You have failed to mention Alan Carroll in your assessment of the above players.....

    And just because a player tried and "wasn't good enough" when he first played EL doesn't mean that he hasn't improved since.

    Alan Barry is a far better player than Manjor or Hayes, regardless of how Alan done in his first stint with L37.

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