QuoteCouldn't believe what they were saying there regarding Scolari having better defensive players to work with when he goes to Chelsea. Three of that back 5 will be at Chelsea next season!
What do people think of Jim Beglin on UTV. Think he is a very insightful co-comentator, calls it as it is, perhaps because he had a grounding on RTE. I know from English messageboards that he is highly thought of.
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Couldn't believe what they were saying there regarding Scolari having better defensive players to work with when he goes to Chelsea. Three of that back 5 will be at Chelsea next season!
I think ITV suffer badly in the studio as they get in current players who are usually useless as they don't watch much football.
Saw small bit of RTE pre match tonight & don't know they got to it but were talking about poor quality football in the EPL. They have 9 months of the year to talk about that but are unable to talk about Euro 2008 10 minutes before a quarter final.
Yeah I watched the RTE coverage properly for the first time tonight and even though I prefer it to the others I found it incredibly annoying that they barely talked about the game at all before or afterwards. Afterwards it was all about how Scolari would do with Chelsea. They are WAY too Prem-centric.Originally Posted by pete
Saw small bit of RTE pre match tonight & don't know they got to it but were talking about poor quality football in the EPL. They have 9 months of the year to talk about that but are unable to talk about Euro 2008 10 minutes before a quarter final.
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would agree tonight was all about preimership and ronaldo dunphy once again blaming ronaldo for lack of effort & drive seemed to forget he had 10 team mates always thought it was a team game .. amazing after 2 set piece goals ( 2nd should have been disallowed for push by ballack ) scholari is a terrible manager and cannot organise his team defensivley
" football is a simple game "
To be fair to BBC, i like Desailly and especially Martin O'Neill. O'Neill is always enthusiastic about the game he is watching (unlike the RTE panel at times) and reads the game brilliantly. He's the best analyst on TV at the mo although I think he's wasted on BBC - if he was on RTE he'd make Dunphy look like the idiot he is. On BBC, he sometimes looks astonished at Shearers et al lack of insight into any game.
RTE should learn from their mistakes and always have a 4 man panel, Giles and Dunphy always seem to be in agreement so you need Souness and Brady to throw a spanner in their ignorance every now and again.
Agree on Martin O'Neill being a fantastic BBC pundit, Desailly and Leonardo are also quite good, but they get drowned out by the Old Boys club a bit too much
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Honestly, he is awful, I see him as the UTV alternative to Lawro.
I can't believe I believe he said that.
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In terms of Match Commentary, I find Co-commentator Ray Houghton to be overtly negative and whiney "Why didn't he pass it earlier", On the other hand the obnoxious Clive Tyldesley has the superb David Pleat whose tones and commentary add to the atmosphere and are always bang-on the mark!
Why I hate RTE's coverage....
I came out of my evening class at about 9:20 last night and nipped into a pub to see the last 10 minutes of the game and, so I thought, after the final whistle I'd see the goals before I got my train home...
No so. Instead, we get quarter of a hour of the Eamonn Dunphy rambling ego show, without a sniff of any action from the match. I saw the goals on Match of the Day when I got home.
Don't get me started on Clive "That wonderful night in Barcelona" Tyldesley. He's enough to make me turn of Champions' League games, every time a goal is disallowed, he mentions Scholes' VS Porto when Mourinho danced down the touchline. Wonder if he'll changed it to "that wonderful night in Moscow" next season?
I think Pleat is pretty good, except when he's commentating on team he used to manage (usually Spurs), when he has to tell us about all the players he bought and sold, and why the bad results weren't his fault etc.
The worst commentator/Analysist for football RTE have by a country mile is Jimmy McGee, the man has just about grasped the rudiments of football yet badgers on about it like he's the be all and end of all of Football commentators. He should have retired 20 years ago. Shame on RTE for hanging onto him.
He lives down from the road from me and is a regular at UCD games. I think people are being a little harsh on him here. He's not the most insightful commentator, but he's relatively easy on the ear.
Tyldesley may be the most annoying commentator I still bother to endure. Motson, I just turn off.
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jeez there is actually someone on this site who thought beglin is good, my god
i agree with you Sosa he is a spoofer
Just 5 years older than John Giles at 73. Let's have no ageism here. Jimmy knows his sport but I agree there is a time to hang up the microphone.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Yeah, leave Jimmy alone. I think he's great. Tyldesley is horrific, Motson similar, possibly more so. I don't like George Hamilton, but I'd listen to him anyday in preference to those two. John Giles is the best co-commentator I've ever heard. Superb to listen to during a match. Sadly he doesn't really do that role any more.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
Its not ageism, I just dislike the way he name drops constantly, Bang in the middle of a match he'd reference the time he became best pals with Pele or some other Blarney. As Tom Humphries said a few years ago, Jimmy is long past his sell-by date for television/radio.. As well as blocking any decent young commentator from coming through too.
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