i never said a free kick goal was worth less - i was talking in reference to ronaldos input into the team when the ball is in play NOT from dead ball set pieces.
when did i say i dismissed him because i dont like him?????? read the my post properly before you make a response - I said i dont him rate for many reasons - never once mentioned i dont rate him because i dont like him
Their are alot of ppl on this site who dont rate ronaldo in such high regard as other posters - so come to terms with it
And yes i am one of those ppl
Dunphesque analysis !!!! - i would more associate that with ppl who cant read posted comments properly and then proceed to make responses on comments that were NEVER actually made originally
anyway this site is about italy - not some greedy whingebag from portugal , so lets all move on
Personally i think we can take the italians - but we will need our best 11 fit - but any1 who dares write off the italians , is being foolish - the italians history in the euros is not as decorated as their history in the world cup - come april and october 09 - they prob will have a new team and a new manager and will be ready and waiting for our boys - its gonna be an intriguing encounter - but ive no doubt we will put it up to them
Last edited by back of the net; 14/06/2008 at 6:27 PM.
Why is claiming we can take Italy ridiculous?? Romania finished ahead of the Dutch in their qualifying campaign and you could say the same thing that player for player the Dutch are better.Its gonna be far from easy to finish ahead of them but its not ridiculous to claim that we can
Its really not that complicated!!!
i said- IF WE HAVE OUR BEST 11 FIT
also as razor said - romania finished ahead of holland
also croatia finished ahead of england,
poland finished aheadd of portugal,
greece finished ahead of turkey
Look How close northern ireland pushed spain and sweden
up until the last 2 games it looked like SCOTLAND WERE GONNA FINISH AHEAD OF ITALY
So i think that puts your " Player for Player" argument out the window
also we have one of the decorated managers in the game - more decorated than the respective managers of croatia , poland , scotland , greece and the north have/had for their qualifiers
Add in we have a squad made up mainly of Premier league players
Thats how i can say we will put it up to italy ciaran
In the last ten years he's won a Portuguese and an Austrian League title. his record at international level is among the worst in Italian history. His record with Juventus 20 years ago is exceptional, but how nuch of that was down to him?
IN the last ten years Poland's Beenkaker has qualified Trinidad for their forst ever world cup, qualified Poland for their first ever Euros, won the dutch league with Feyernoord and Ajax. Greece's Rehaggel was won the German league with Kaiserslauten and the fecking European Championship with Greece.
I also think you're underestimating the playing ability of the players from Croatia, Poland and Greece
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That is a bit of a stupid post.
If football followed your logic Greece wouldn't have won Euro 2004. Romania wouldn't qualify out of the 'group of death'....Germany would hammer Croatia.....Portugal wouldn't struggle at home against teams like Finland.
Paraguay wouldn't beat Brazil. Ecuador wouldn't get a result against Argentina.
Porto wouldn't win the Champions League. Villarreal wouldn't finish second in La Liga. Valencia would finish top 6.
Obviously because their Italians you will rate them higher than Irish players.
Duff I firmly believe would. McGeady might. Dunne might(better than Barzagli), Keane without a doubt. Given....YES.
So I believe we have three/four players that could make their squad, and maby two who could potentially start. But even if we didn't have any, it means nothing.
Last edited by irishultra; 16/06/2008 at 10:32 AM.
A bit of me is very unhappy at the moment because i bet on Romania each way before they start of the tournament, but i feel Italy getting out of the group can be beneficial to Ireland in the world cup qualifiers. i dont rate Donadoni too highly so him keeping his job would be good for us
"Well I think they'll be a little disappointed with that" - Matt Holland on TV3 after 5-2 drubbing by Cyprus
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