Originally Posted by Ciaran
I dont need to reply to this as everyone else has.
Will make the point though that we've just seen probably the two best strikers in the World - Torres & Villa.
PS As for ESPN - they must have had exclusive rights to Euro 2006.
Last edited by stojkovic; 10/06/2008 at 8:23 PM.
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agreed stojkovic
I dont need to reply to this as everyone else has.
Will make the point though that we've just seen probably the two best strikers in the World - Torres & Villa.
PS As for ESPN - they must have had exclusive rights to Euro 2006.
apart from villa and torres, i could easily name at least 7 / 8 other strikers who i would have upfront ahead of luca toni and ibrahamovic
thats a fine bit of backtracking, you're original post used the 2nd half of season gone by as proof for including del piero yet now you are going on the past 2 seasons, if thats the case where are henry, klose, ribery, podolski, I could go on, these are all as good if not better than the 3 you speak of so highly (especially going back over 2 seasons), yet they are not even in your 'top tier' list
Havin a weekend away is quite frankly,lettin ur team mates down!
Torres
Villa
Berbetov
Drogba
Eto
podolski
Henry
Karim Benzema
Lesandro Lopez
Van Nistelrooy
because neither fo them would get in the barcelona starting line up either. The only comparison you can have between henry and Trezeguet is that they were both eligible for the French squad, and only Henry was picked.
Anyway, back to the original point. there's no way anyone in italy would swap their squad for ours. They are immeasurably better in most departments
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yeah there's no way i'd have him or eto'o down as one of the best strikers in the world. Also, Henry's very much past his best.
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Do Trezeguet and Del piero not play for the one club, if so why are you pointing out klose being 2nd to toni? I didn't actually say I rated those players higher than the 3 you mentioned, I was merely pointing out that your 'top tier' seemed to be missing quite a few players of equal quality to those you listed. I think Henry's 12 goals from 30 odd games for Barca isn't the sign of a bad player
Havin a weekend away is quite frankly,lettin ur team mates down!
well i rate toni as a good player but not on the levels you seem to hold him at - i would not even consider him if i had the option of playing drogba , van nistl:, torres , etoo, totti, del piero, torres etc and i could say many more
but everyone has their own views i guess
I won't go into a long argument about this but making lists like this and saying that nobody else is better than any of those is very subjective and a bit stupid. You could make cases for Adebayor, Benzema, Berbatov, Keane, Raul, Henry, Rooney, Tevez, Mario Gomez, Arshavin, and of course Aguero who is meant to be one of the best young players on the planet. I'm sure there are a good few more who could be placed above some of those on the list. Also, would Villa have made it onto your list this time yesterday?
Anyway, how this is relevant to Ireland I don't know (or Italy for that matter).
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good post jmurphy - would agree with it all bar 2 things
1) villa would have defo been on the list prior to y'days performance
2)i wouldnt call someone saying someone else is better a bit stupid - every1 views the game in their own way and hence why we all have different opinions - hence the reason for the foot.ie board - cant have a debate if we all had the same opinions on players
as for aguero - potential , so they say - havent seen him , but if were including potential into the list - then ,huntelaar has to be in
but its all a matter of opinion - but good post mate
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To be honest lads, i can't believe Ronaldo isn't included in yer lists. He's not really a winger - as mentioned in another thread he plays in the same position as Henry. He's an excellent striker - even if he is a complete t***er.
Would never include Podolski either - don't rate him at all. I'd include Tevez also in the worlds top strikers list.
agree with u on tevez - but thats why i said i could mention many more top strikers -there is loads of class strikers out there
BUT...... ronaldo ....... no way mate ...... he is good but not great
watching him be very average in european competitions(champs league) is just humerous
he is actually quite limited and very over rated
another average performance for portugal last night despite him scoring.....he does not play well against continental opposition ... he ends up getting marked out of the the game
but agree... what a complete t**ser (-;
one of the most pathetic, blinkered posts i have ever read. and im not a United (or Real) fan.
he scored one, created the other two and had 2 or 3 more decent shots on target. He was a constant thorn in the side of a very good Czech team. If thats an average performance in your book then id like to see a great one.
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Skstu - i dont rate ronaldo as a great player - and also i dont rate that czech team as a VERY GOOD czech team - i think they are an average side and if we had a proper manager in place for the euro qulaifiers - then i think it would have been us playing the portugese that night , not the czechsone of the most pathetic, blinkered posts i have ever read. and im not a United (or Real
he scored one, created the other two and had 2 or 3 more decent shots on target. He was a constant thorn in the side of a very good Czech team. If thats an average performance in your book then id like to see a great one.
I think that this tournament has been one of the lowest quality european championships in years
considering the opposition the portugese faced (czech rep) - i would not call his performance a GREAT performance , when the portugese face one of the better european sides (of which the czechs are not ) or when united play a top european side , ronaldo is barely in the game
- so ,mate , equally i could call your opinion "blinkered" , but i wont cos everyone has their own opinion and is entitled to it
Just watching the great Luca Toni in action at the moment.
Absolutely shocking, Torres would have had a hat-trick.
Dunphy was wrong. He's not a poor mans Peter Crouch, he's a poor mans Tony Cascarino.
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I absolutely hate Manchester United, but I watch a lot of football and for my money Cristiano Ronaldo is hands down the best player in the world at the moment. Messi is the only guy up there with him and he was injured for the second half of last season.one of the most pathetic, blinkered posts i have ever read. and im not a United (or Real
he scored one, created the other two and had 2 or 3 more decent shots on target. He was a constant thorn in the side of a very good Czech team. If thats an average performance in your book then id like to see a great one.
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