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    Ireland VS South Africa Pre Match Thread

    Trapattoni has allowed Robbie Keane, Kevin Kilbane, Shay Given and Stephen Hunt to return to their clubs, and called up Darren O'Dea: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0906/ireland.html

    I'll be there on tuesday night anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Trapattoni has allowed Robbie Keane, Kevin Kilbane, Shay Given and Stephen Hunt to return to their clubs, and called up Darren O'Dea: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0906/ireland.html

    I'll be there on tuesday night anyway.
    Sensible enough. We'd be complaining he'd no plan B if any of them got injured before Italy. Good to give some others a bit of game time.

    I'll be there as well
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    So the squad is

    Keiren Westwood
    Joe Murphy

    John O'Shea
    Stephen Kelly
    Eddie Nolan
    Sean St. Ledger
    Paul McShane
    Darren O'Dea

    Aiden McGeady
    Damien Duff
    Darron Gibson
    Glenn Whelan
    Keith Andrews
    Liam Miller
    Andy Keogh
    Liam Lawrence

    Caleb Folan
    Kevin Doyle
    Shane Long
    Leon Best

    Not much to get excited about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    Not much to get excited about.
    It'll be exciting to see us try string 4 or more passes together!

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    Its actually scary how crap our squad is when you take even a few lads out like that.

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    I'm happy some of the other lads will be getting a run out.

    Diffcult to predict his starting 11 but I'd go for:

    Westwood

    O'Shea-St Ledger-McShane-Nolan

    McGeady-Lawrence-Gibson-Duff

    Doyle-Best

    and then hope for the best.....

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    Not sure he'll make that many changes of personnel. Have a notion he might try Josh at center half with Sledge just to see how they get on in case we were without Dunne for whatever reason.

    I think he might start Andrews and Whelan again too and give them a half.

    I think he'll give Doyle a half but might try starting Folan with him -again just in case of injury to Robbie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    I'm happy some of the other lads will be getting a run out.

    Diffcult to predict his starting 11 but I'd go for:

    Westwood

    O'Shea-St Ledger-McShane-Nolan

    McGeady-Lawrence-Gibson-Duff

    Doyle-Best

    and then hope for the best.....
    Lawrence wont start in center midfield
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    I know he won't! He'll stick with Andrews and Whelan but we know what they can do. I think he needs to try out other options in the centre of midfield.

    The Trap will have something like this:

    Westwood

    McShane-St Ledger-O'Shea-Nolan

    McGeady-Andrews-Whelan-Duff

    Doyle-Folan

    What do we learn though with that team?

    Lawrence got a run out against Nigeria but deserves another chance and I think Best could do with another run out after impressing against the Nigerians.

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    the reason I meant that he wouldnt play center midfield is because hes a winger
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Lawrence wont start in center midfield
    You're right but I've long felt he could actually do well there for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    the reason I meant that he wouldnt play center midfield is because hes a winger
    Wide midfielder - huge difference. Duff is a winger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    The Trap will have something like this:

    Westwood

    McShane-St Ledger-O'Shea-Nolan

    McGeady-Andrews-Whelan-Duff

    Doyle-Folan

    What do we learn though with that team?
    What do we learn?

    It gives Westwood another run - good keeper and handy to rack up some game time
    It gives Nolan a valauble run out & chance to impress
    It gives O'Shea and SSL time together - important if Dunne is injured or suspended
    It gives Doyle & Folan a look together and a chance to gel
    It gives the likely starting midfield 4 against Italy a dress rehearsal and a chance to put Saturday's nervous showing behind them.

    Not to mention the likely subs we'll see: Lawrence & Gibson, maybe Best, Keogh or Long, O'Dea may get a run out.

    The XI you pick allows the chance to plan for the absence of our big 4 players without totally changing the team. It's actually not a bad XI in my view. I disagree with both you and eirebhoy - it makes Tuesday more interesting in my view.

    I'm not sure I said any of this better than Lionel did above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Its actually scary how crap our squad is when you take even a few lads out like that.

    It doesn't get much better when you put em back in

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    It doesn't get much better when you put em back in
    yes, a 40 goal striker with 5 in this campaign alone and one of europes best keepers... real dross

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    yes, a 40 goal striker with 5 in this campaign alone and one of europes best keepers... real dross
    Only joking!!

    It will be interesting to see how we get on with a few players taken out,
    remember we could be without some of those player with injuries or whatever
    so it will be a good chance to see what we can do with a few key players left out and a chance for those coming in to show what they can do and get more accustomed to playing this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Trapattoni has allowed Robbie Keane, Kevin Kilbane, Shay Given and Stephen Hunt to return to their clubs
    It's probably a sensible decision by Trapp but I did have this image of Shay and Killer winning their 100th caps against Italy and the crowd being whipped into a frenzy beforehand with a presentation or something. Looks likely the 100th caps will be against Montenegro now.

    Another idea would be for the FAI to bring the Irish teams who played Italy in 1990 and 1994 onto the pitch before the game in October to get the crowd going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastTerracer View Post
    It's probably a sensible decision by Trapp but I did have this image of Shay and Killer winning their 100th caps against Italy and the crowd being whipped into a frenzy beforehand with a presentation or something. Looks likely the 100th caps will be against Montenegro now.

    Another idea would be for the FAI to bring the Irish teams who played Italy in 1990 and 1994 onto the pitch before the game in October to get the crowd going.
    Ya, I had visions of Given and Kilbane beating Staunton's caps record in the second leg of a playoff game and being inspired to top class performances as we qualified for the World Cup.

    Not going to happen now, Staunton's record will survive into the new year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakermaker1982 View Post
    I know he won't! He'll stick with Andrews and Whelan but we know what they can do. I think he needs to try out other options in the centre of midfield.

    The Trap will have something like this:

    Westwood

    McShane-St Ledger-O'Shea-Nolan

    McGeady-Andrews-Whelan-Duff

    Doyle-Folan

    What do we learn though with that team?

    Lawrence got a run out against Nigeria but deserves another chance and I think Best could do with another run out after impressing against the Nigerians.
    seriously do people think mcshane will start ahead of kelly ,and mcshane is half fit,if so we are f**cked..gibson will get a run too
    my prediction of traps team would be
    westwood
    kelly oshea ledge nolan
    mcgaedy gibson miller(doubtfull) lawrence
    best doyle
    it is a bit different i know but with him sending so many first team players home i wouldnt be surprised
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    i see this as a majorly positive move from Trappatoni and, as mentioned earlier, its interesting to see how poor we are when we lose some of our top players.

    i would have liked to see a few of the other lads at the fringes called up for at least a look at in training though (McCann, McCarthy, Fahey).

    It will make the game really interesting though to see how we can perform.

    i think ive plagiarised everyone i needed to to state my opinion.
    I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.

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